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Passing Marks

If Brett Favre has one of his typical seasons in 2007, he'll surpass three NFL career milestones held by Dan Marino. But big numbers aren't the only thing those two have in common

Posted: Tuesday September 11, 2007 9:41AM; Updated: Wednesday September 12, 2007 5:18PM
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In addition to winning three NFL MVP awards (1995, '96, '97) to one by Marino ('84), Favre is one up on the Hall of Famer 
 in the coveted Super Bowl ring department. 
 Favre got his in a 35?21 win over the Patriots in XXXI.
In addition to winning three NFL MVP awards (1995, '96, '97) to one by Marino ('84), Favre is one up on the Hall of Famer in the coveted Super Bowl ring department. Favre got his in a 35?21 win over the Patriots in XXXI.
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Early in 2000 Dan Marino had three offers to play an 18th NFL season -- enthusiastic overtures from the Steelers, his hometown team, and the Vikings, an offensive powerhouse, plus a tepid invite to return to the Dolphins. Pittsburgh and Minnesota believed Marino had one more playoff run left in him. He did too. But neither deal felt right because he didn't want to move his family or tarnish the legacy he'd built in Miami with one season of mercenary work. Nor did he want to return to a team he felt didn't truly want him back. Had he played another year, he would have pushed his record passing numbers even further into the stratosphere. But, Marino says, "I never thought about that."

In the first few months of this year Brett Favre had to decide whether to play a 16th season in Green Bay or to retire. The discussion with his family came down to whether he still wanted to play (he did), whether he felt he could still perform well enough to win (he did),and whether there was anything else he wanted to do with his life at the time (there was nothing immediate). Coming off a season in which he had passed for more yards than all but five quarterbacks and finished on a four-game winning streak, the call wasn't that tough. As for the 135 pass attempts, seven touchdown passes and 3,862 passing yards he needed to break Marino's career records (8,358 attempts, 420 TDs and 61,361 yards), says Favre, "We never talked about numbers one time."

In a stats-crazy sports world, we should appreciate not only the numbers put up by Marino and Favre -- who last year eclipsed Marino's career mark for completions (4,967) -- but also the dignified way in which they went about attaining them. As someone who knows both men well, Marino as a colleague on HBO's Inside the NFL and Favre from chronicling his career for Sports Illustrated, I can tell you with conviction that they care far more about wins and losses than touchdowns and interceptions. Favre has told me stories about how his father, Irvin, also his high school coach, instilled in him a winning-is-the-only-thing mentality. I saw Marino, after breaking the alltime passing-yardage record in a loss to the Patriots in 1995, being handed the stat sheet from the game as a memento and tossing it disgustedly into his locker. On that day, to Marino, stats were for losers.

Marino never won a Super Bowl ring, so his records have special meaning to him -- in particular, the one for TD passes, and you sense a bit of melancholy in Marino with Favre on the verge of breaking it. The Packers' quarterback, who on Sunday completed 23 of 42 passes for 206 yards but no touchdowns in a 16--13 win over the Eagles, is more pragmatic. He sees 31-year-old Peyton Manning in his rearview mirror, 142 touchdown passes behind Marino, and knows he'll likely hold the record for only a few years. Despite their disregard for numbers, what follows is a statistical review of Favre's long march to overtake Marino.

Measures of Greatness
Where Favre ranks all time in regular-season stats and regular season plus postseason.
  REGULAR SEASON
(Rank; Leader)
PLUS POSTSEASON
(Rank; Leader)
Games played by QB 242 (T4th; George Blanda) 262 (3rd; Blanda)
Pass attempts 8,265 (2nd; Dan Marino) 8,929 (2nd, Marino)
Completions 5,044 (1st) 5,445 (1st)
Completion percentage* 61.0 (13th; Kurt Warner) 61.0 (13th; Warner)
Passing yards 57,706 (2nd; Marino) 62,608 (2nd; Marino)
Touchdown passes 414 (2nd; Marino) 448 (2nd; Marino)
Interceptions 274 (2nd; Blanda) 300 (1st)
Passer rating* 84.9 (15th; Steve Young) 84.8 (14th; Young)
Times sacked** 428 (7th; John Elway) 460 (7th; Elway)
*Minimum 1,500 pass attempts **Sacks have been compiled since 1969

 

Kings of the Passing Game
Here is the line of succession at the top of the NFL's alltime passing list.
QUARTERBACK TEAMS HELD RECORD CAREER YDS
Arnie Herber Packers, Giants 1932-43 8,041
Sammy Baugh Redskins 1943-59 21,886
Bobby Layne Bears, N.Y. Bulldogs, Lions, Steelers 1959-64 26,768
Y.A. Tittle Colts, 49ers, Giants 1964-66 28,339
Johnny Unitas Colts, Chargers 1966-76 40,239
Fran Tarkenton Vikings, Giants 1976-95 47,003
Dan Marino Dolphins 1995-present 61,361


 

As Brett Goes...
So go the Packers. The team's success is tied to Favre's passing efficiency, as his stats in wins and losses illustrate.
FAVRE STAT WINS LOSSES
Starting record 148 90
Attempts per game 32.1 37.4
Completions per game 20.1 22.0
Completion percentage 62.6 58.8
Yards per game 239.0 237.5
Touchdown passes 301 113
Interceptions 111 163
TD/Interception ratio 2.71 0.69
Passer rating 96.4 68.7
Sacks per game 1.60 2.04


 

Out of the Shadow of Number 4
Favre's backups see minimal -- if any -- game action in Green Bay. At least these 11 got a chance to start elsewhere after leaving the Packers.
BACKUP QB PACKERS YEARS LATER STARTED FOR HOW QB FARED AFTER DEPARTING GREEN BAY
Steve Bono 1997 Rams Lost both starts for a St. Louis team that went 4-12 in 1998
Aaron Brooks 1999 Saints, Raiders Saints' alltime leader in TD passes (120); second in passing yards (19,156)
Mark Brunell 1993-94 Jaguars, Redskins Led Jags to AFC title game in '99; has 31,826 career passing yards
Henry Burris 2001 Bears Only NFL start in final appearance, in '02; CFL vet returned to Canada in '03
Ty Detmer 1992-95 Eagles, 49ers, Browns, Lions Best run: 4,478 passing yards and 22 TDs total for Eagles in '96 and '97
Matt Hasselbeck 1998-2000 Seahawks Has thrown for more than 18,000 yards in Seattle; reached Super Bowl XL
Don Majkowski 1987-92 Colts, Lions Lost starting job to Favre in '92; made eight starts in four years elsewhere
Rick Mirer 1998 Jets, Raiders Won four of 14 starts; did not throw a pass in three of last four years in NFL
Doug Pederson 1996-98, 2001-04 Eagles, Browns Longtime backup played second fiddle to Favre and Marino (1993)
Kurt Warner 1994 Rams, Giants, Cardinals Two-time NFL MVP led St. Louis to two Super Bowls, winning one
Danny Wuerffel 2000 Redskins Heisman winner got his shot in a Steve Spurrier experiment and went 2-2

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