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Posted: Tuesday December 30, 2008 11:20AM; Updated: Tuesday December 30, 2008 5:48PM

Roundtable: Believe in Magic?

Story Highlights

The Magic are hanging tough just behind the Celtics and Cavaliers in the East

Orlando still must prove itself in the playoffs against more battle-tested teams

More topics: future of the West's also-rans; New Year's resolutions for David Stern

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Jameer Nelson's improved play has helped the Magic stay within striking distance of the Celtics and Cavaliers in the East.
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SI.com NBA writers analyze the latest news and address hot topics from around the league each week. (All stats and records are through Monday's games.)

1. What do you make of the Magic's 24-7 start?

Ian Thomsen: I wonder how far they can go in the playoffs. Is Dwight Howard ready at 23 to lead his young team to a best-of-seven win over the defending champion Celtics or the Cavaliers, who themselves have reached an NBA Finals and won five playoff series in the last three years? Those two contenders look like finished products, while the Magic are trying to reach that level. Unless they make some trades, the only way they'll get there is for Howard, point guard Jameer Nelson and the rest of them to learn the hard way in the postseason, just like every young team in the league has had to do it.

Jack McCallum: I was ignoring it for a while. Last season, the Magic got out of the gate fast and I did a story on them for Sports Illustrated, after which they came back to earth a little. But they're a better team this year with an improved Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson, a steady Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis (I've never been a big fan of the latter), a deep rotation that sometimes reaches all the way down to J.J. Redick, good fortune on injuries (so far) and the sure hand of Stan Van Gundy on the throttle. However, what that makes them, still, is the third-best team in the East.

Chris Mannix: The Magic are no fluke. They are as good on the road (11-4) as they are at home (13-3), and they've won 14 of 18 games against the Western Conference. Two big factors for them: First, Tony Battie's return to the lineup after missing all of last season with a shoulder injury has added a legitimate inside presence to play next to Dwight Howard. Battie's numbers aren't gaudy (4.9 points, 4.3 rebounds in 16.5 minutes) but he's a legitimate power player in a lineup nearly devoid of them. And second, Jameer Nelson is fast developing into one of the league's top point guards. The jury will continue to be out on Nelson until he succeeds in the playoffs, but his start (16.7 points, 52.4 percent shooting from the field) has been impressive.

Steve Aschburner: Heading into this season, I was skeptical of Orlando's backcourt and not convinced that Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis would give Dwight Howard enough help inside. But a few things are bringing me around to the Magic, not the least of which is their success against the West. Then there is their road record. And Jameer Nelson's performance. And Orlando's improved defensive numbers (third in defensive efficiency, third in opponents' field-goal shooting). And the way Howard will come out for warm-ups in a tank top, his Muscle Beach physique figuratively kicking sand in the faces of the other teams' scrawny men. OK, that's going too far. But Nelson's play and the Magic's ratcheting up on defense make them, well, a solid third-best in the East. But with a shot at No. 2.

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Third-year forward Rudy Gay, 22, is one of eight Grizzlies players 23 or younger.
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2. In a recent Roundtable, everybody agreed that the Western Conference has a nine-team playoff race and that six teams -- the Grizzlies, Clippers, Warriors, Kings, Timberwolves and Thunder -- have no chance of reaching the postseason. Of those six teams, whose future are you buying?

Ian Thomsen: The first question is, Which of them has the best young player? In that sense, you look at Oklahoma City's upside with Kevin Durant, based on what he's done at 20 with very little help around him.

Some of these teams have different agendas. The Clippers are built to win now, and the Grizzlies may lack the resources and commitment to exploit the cap space and flexibility they've amassed. The Warriors seem to rebuild anew with young players every three or four years, so their track record isn't promising even if Monta Ellis recovers from his ankle injury.

The Timberwolves, Kings and Thunder all have a few intriguing pieces to build around, but how do you convert young teams playing as badly as they are into winning organizations? It's going to come down to making some shrewd trades and surrounding young talents like Durant, Minnesota's Al Jefferson and Sacramento's Spencer Hawes with players who can help them turn the corner sooner than later. Those revamps are impossible to predict: Did anybody forecast the Celtics' summer of 2007? They looked like a hopeless team with a star player in Paul Pierce who had little faith. Based on the Celtics' model, then, these losing teams are going to need owners who are willing to pay the price of a talented team, and general managers who are wise and bold.

In short, I don't have a clue which of these teams is going to make it, because if any of them ever does turn into a winner, it will be with an overhauled roster that looks nothing like what we're seeing today.

Jack McCallum: Since I can't answer none of them, I'm going to say the Grizzlies. They have a budding star in O.J. Mayo, two fine young players in Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol and a coach, Marc Iavaroni, who won't stop working until he gets it right.

Chris Mannix: Memphis. The Grizzlies are well under the salary cap and have an enviable nucleus (O.J. Mayo, Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol) to build around. It's unclear whether GM Chris Wallace and coach Marc Iavaroni will survive until next season, but even if they don't, it's clear to me that Memphis has a team that's headed in the right direction. Wallace (or his replacement) will need to be a good salesman, because regardless of the talent level, it will take a hard sell to persuade a marquee free agent to make small-market Memphis his new home.

Steve Aschburner: No offense, but I'd like to park my cash in something safer, like a certificate of deposit. Or a piece of the Trail Blazers. Forced to buy, I would go with the Grizzlies. In O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay, they have two wing players capable of combining for 45 points for the next 10 years. Marc Gasol looks like a bulkier version of his brother, which could be a really good thing, and Hakim Warrick and Darrell Arthur are good young pieces up front. In Mike Conley and Kyle Lowry, Memphis has a two-headed point guard that, in a combined 48.8 minutes, is contributing 15.7 points, 7.5 assists and 5.4 rebounds. This is a team that routinely uses a starting lineup younger than the University of Memphis team that played for the NCAA championship last spring, and we all know that the best thing about young players is that they get older.

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