Mailbag: Fate of women's MMA; readers discuss 'Bones', rankings
Dana White does not intend to create an entire division for women fighters
Jon Jones was patient and showed maturity in his victory over Shogun Rua
White's media policy is heavy-handed, especially compared to other sports
Did you happen to hear Gilbert Melendez in the aftermath of last Saturday night's explosive defense of his Strikeforce lightweight championship? Asked what's next for him, he didn't hesitate.
"I think it's time we unify some titles," Melendez said, drawing an ovation from the crowd. "Who wants to see me fight for that UFC title?" Louder roars.
Apparently "El Niņo" didn't get the "business as usual" memo sent out by UFC president Dana White in the days following his parent company's purchase of Strikeforce.
Of course, White was right there in that crowd in San Diego, wearing his spiffy new Strikeforce T-shirt, so he heard the cheers. He's read the stories and tweets drooling over UFC vs. Strikeforce superfights. And despite the boss' insistence that, at least for now, Strikeforce will continue to do its thing while the UFC conducts its business as, um, usual, one thing you cannot deny about White is that he's always been a guy who listens to the fans and tries to give them the fights they want to see.
So maybe once Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard have settled matters in the UFC lightweight division at the end of next month, we'll see the winner in a cage -- octagonal? hexagonal? -- against Melendez. Maybe we'll see Strikeforce welterweight champ Nick Diaz stick out his chin and trash-taunt Georges St-Pierre, if the UFC titlist manages to take care of business next weekend against Diaz's training partner, Jake Shields. Maybe the UFC's Cain Velasquez and Strikeforce's Alistair Overeem will throw heavyweight belts at each other.
But several fans have written to SI.com in the wake of the Strikeforce sale to put in a good word for altogether different fights, ones that White has said the UFC has no interest in promoting.
"Now that Strikeforce is owned by the UFC," wrote Jose from Columbus, Ohio, "what does this mean for the future of women's fights?" Weighing in from Be'er Sheva, Israel, reader Ro'ee asked, "What happens to Coenen and Carmouche, for instance?"
That would be Marloes Coenen, the Strikeforce women's welterweight champion, and Liz Carmouche, who nearly took the title away in a thrilling bout in March. That fight, in which Coenen pulled off a fourth-round triangle choke after being beaten up for the better part of the first three rounds, got me to thinking of women's MMA in a whole new way.
Before that night, I viewed the women's game pretty much the way White sees it: as a competition lacking enough legitimate contenders to make it interesting. I had come to that conclusion by taking in a steady diet of Cris "Cyborg" Santos, the indomitable Brazilian who captured not just the middleweight belt but the sport itself by smashing Gina Carano back in 2009. In brutally and decisively mowing down everyone who's stood in front of her, Cyborg has created the aura of being so far ahead of other women that it simply isn't fair to throw someone into a cage with her.
That's still the way I see Cyborg's 145-pound division, frankly, but Coenen and Carmouche showed that at 135, at least, there are competitive fights. Miesha Tate is a credible next opponent for Coenen, and Carano soon will fight for the first time since the Cyborg beatdown. But even all of those tough women might not be enough to persuade White, who, in announcing the Strikeforce sale, explained his lukewarm position on the women's game to MMAFighting.com: "Can you do some cool fights here and there? Yeah, but not enough to create an entire division."
Clearly, there are enough bodies to fill two women's weight divisions. But competitive ones? I see where White is coming from. However, all of the Showtime exposure Strikeforce gets could bring new blood to the women's game. And really, we've seen similar imbalances of power in men's weight divisions, too. When Lyoto Machida rose to the UFC light heavyweight title, he was widely viewed as invulnerable. Now Jon Jones is champ, hasn't even defended the belt once and people are talking about how he can't be beat. Yet the fights go on.
Who knows whether the UFC will come around on women's MMA? One thing we do know is that White & Co. like to make money and favor fighters who get the fans' blood boiling. How else to explain the UFC stints of ratings draw Kimbo Slice and Phil Baroni, who was 3-7 in UFC bouts but never shied away from a Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots thriller? So with Strikeforce apparently safe at least until its TV deal expires in a couple of years, the women have a lengthy audition to show White what they've got.
And even if the UFC opts to hand women's MMA a pink slip, no doubt someone else -- Bellator? A fight promotion that hasn't even been launched yet? -- will step up to keep the female fists flying.
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Great article about Jon Jones being unbeatable. In reference to what you said about the "Shogun" Rua fight being over after 20 seconds, true, "Bones" showed complete superiority when he threw Rua to the floor. But for him to miss on all of those early strikes and Rua being unable to take advantage was also a strong indicator.
What really surprised me about the Jon Jones fight, and what people are not giving him enough credit for, was his pace. Instead of pushing for the early knockout, it was beautiful how he paced himself, even with the pressure of him being the face of the sport, fighting for the title and being heavily favored.
--Kent, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Shogun was really slow and didn't show any of the explosiveness we're used to seeing when he fights. He was definitely out of shape, coming off of a long time rehabbing his knee. Don't know what the outcome would be if he was 100 percent, but it definitely would not be that kind of a beating.
--Bernardo, Rio de Janeiro
I hate to be the "prisoner of the moment" guy, but I know sports, and I definitely know what I saw in the Jones-Rua fight. That was the MJ versus the Lakers dunk-turned-layup where Jordan switches hands at the last moment. The statement: I am now king of this sport.
--Chris, Santa Barbara, Calif.
Alexander and Kent: You each picked up on things that were largely overlooked -- or at least not emphasized -- in all the exhaustive analysis of Jones' dominant win. Going into the fight, the big question about the 23-year-old was this: What would (or could) he do if someone managed to withstand his fiery and creative early onslaught? Rua did survive Jones' unorthodox offensive early on, but the challenger did not leave himself open to counterattack. And "Bones" never got frustrated that Shogun wasn't going away. Instead, he simply took his time with a systematic destruction. That was more impressive than a 30-second KO.
Bernardo: There wasn't even the slightest hint from the Shogun camp that he was impaired. It might have been simply that Rua is too noble to make excuses, but I think he simply met a better fighter who'd beat him even if he were at the proverbial 110 percent.
Chris: What do you think Jones could do on a basketball court?