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Sonics' Payton traded for Bucks' Allen at deadline

Posted: Thursday February 20, 2003 5:10 PM
Updated: Friday February 21, 2003 1:58 AM
  Gary Payton At 34, Gary Payton was a decade older than most of the players on Seattle's roster. Noren Trotman/NBAE/
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NEW YORK (AP) -- In a blockbuster five-player deal Thursday at the NBA trading deadline, Ray Allen was sent from the Milwaukee Bucks to the Seattle SuperSonics for Gary Payton and Desmond Mason.

The Sonics also received guards Kevin Ollie and Ronald Murray and a conditional first-round draft pick.

The trade ended Payton's career in Seattle after 12 1/2 seasons and reunited him with coach George Karl.

Milwaukee plays at Seattle on Friday night, but Sonics general manager Rick Sund said that neither Payton nor the four others in the trade would play.

Payton's contract expires after this season, and the Sonics risked losing the nine-time All-Star guard over the summer on the free agent market with nothing in return.

Instead, they acquired one of the purest shooters in the game.

Allen, a six-year veteran and three-time All-Star, has spent his entire career with the Bucks. A gold medalist for the United States at the Sydney Olympics, he also will be a member of the 2004 Olympic men's basketball team.

SI.com's Marty Burns
As heartbreaking as it might be for Seattle fans, Gary Payton was unhappy about not being offered a contract extension, and his relationship with management had soured beyond repair.

Now the Sonics can get on with rebuilding, and Ray Allen is a pretty good piece with which to start.

As for the Bucks, they can put the Big Three Era completely in the past and move on. Even if they re-sign Payton, they should get him at lesser cost than Allen.

Meanwhile, they have a roster full of fleet athletes and shooters who should make things more exciting if nothing else.

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"We hate trading a player of Ray's caliber and character. He's done a lot for the city of Milwaukee, but everybody gets traded at some point in this league," Bucks general manager Ernie Grunfeld said. "We got two outstanding players for him."

The trade creates a logjam at point guard for the Bucks while causing the opposite problem for the SuperSonics.

Seattle also made a trade with the New Orleans Hornets, exchanging point guard Kenny Anderson for center Elden Campbell.

In the day's only other deal, Boston sent guard Shammond Williams, a second-round draft pick and cash to Denver for center Mark Blount and forward Mark Bryant.

"Quite frankly, I'm surprised any deals were made," Atlanta Hawks general manager Pete Babcock said.

The Hawks were expected to be one of the most active teams before the deadline, but 3 p.m. passed without any of their best players -- Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Jason Terry, Theo Ratliff and Glenn Robinson -- being traded.

"The tax had added another layer of issues you have to work through," Babcock said. "You rarely see a trade just talent-for-talent."

Many owners told their basketball executives they would not take on added payroll commitments, especially if it would put them over the expected luxury tax threshold of $52-53 million. Teams with payrolls higher than that amount will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax on the overage.

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Concerns about long-term financial implications apparently scuttled a deal that would have sent Derrick Coleman from Philadelphia to Golden State for Adonal Foyle and Bob Sura, an Eastern Conference official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

"It's very, very hard to make deals today for a number of reasons. One being the luxury tax," Chicago Bulls general manager Jerry Krause said. "It used to be you'd talk about basketball players and now you talk about budgets. A guy used to say, 'I'll get out the roster.' Now a guy says, 'I'll get out the budget printout.'"

Karl was Payton's coach in Seattle when the SuperSonics lost to the Chicago Bulls in the 1996 NBA Finals. Payton's arrival presumably will force Bucks starter Sam Cassell into a backup role, with sharpshooter Michael Redd taking over Allen's old spot at shooting guard.

An NBA spokesman denied a report that the Bucks and Knicks had requested an extension of the trade deadline to finalize a deal sending Cassell and another player to New York for Latrell Sprewell. Grunfeld and a Knicks spokesman also said there was no validity to the report.

Milwaukee has struggled for a season and a half after coming within one game of reaching the NBA Finals in 2001. The Bucks are 27-26 -- seventh-best in the Eastern Conference.

As the afternoon trade deadline drew near, the Indiana Pacers were said to be on the verge of acquiring Payton in a three-way deal. But Pacers general manager Donnie Walsh said the sides were "not close at all."

Although it was not a huge surprise for the Sonics to trade Payton, it was much more shocking to see the Bucks give up Allen -- their leading scorer with a 21.3-point average.

"To be a part of Gary Payton leaving the city of Seattle is one of the most difficult things I've ever had to encounter," Sonics coach Nate McMillan told a news conference.

"It's hard for me to show the excitement because I'm losing not only the players but also a very close friend," said McMillan, who played eight seasons with Payton before retiring in 1998.

Bucks general manager Ernie Grunfeld's asking price for Allen was high, and he got the Sonics to include one of their most promising youngsters -- Mason. The 25-year-old former slam dunk champion was Seattle's best reserve, averaging 14.1 points and 7.0 rebounds.

"It was an All-Star point guard for an All-Star two-guard. Both players are great," Nets vice president Rod Thorn commented. "Gary was in the last year with Seattle. They felt they got a quality player in Ray. That's a trade that could be real good for both teams."

If the Bucks don't give the starting shooting guard spot to Redd, it could go to Mason.

The trade apparently will leave Ollie as Seattle's starter at point guard. A career backup, he was averaging 5.7 points and 3.4 assists behind Cassell.

Payton was averaging 20.8 points and 8.8 assists for the SuperSonics, who have dropped out of the playoff race in the Western Conference after a promising start to the season. At 34, Payton was a decade older than most of the players on Seattle's roster.

"He likes playing for George," said Payton's agent, Aaron Goodwin.

The draft pick going to Seattle will be the lower of Milwaukee's own pick or Atlanta's, which was acquired by the Bucks in the Glenn Robinson deal. If lottery protection provisions leave the Bucks with only one first-round pick, they will send the Sonics a pair of second-round picks -- their own, and Memphis' pick.

SI.com's Trade Analysis
Sonics send Payton to Bucks for Allen 
SONICS GET:
Ray Allen - G
Kevin Ollie - G
Ronald Murray - G
BUCKS GET:
Gary Payton - G
Desmond Mason - G

'01-02 G PPG RPG APG SPG FG% 3P%
Allen 47 21.3 4.6 3.5 1.25 45.0 40.6
Ollie 53 5.7 1.9 3.4 .7 45.9 20.0
Murray 12 1.9 .1 .3 .33 34.6 0.0
'01-02 G PPG RPG APG SPG FG% 3P%
Payton 52 20.8 4.2 7.4 2.11 44.8 29.8
Mason 52 14.1 6.4 1.8 .75 44.6 27.6
How it affects the Sonics:   How it affects the Bucks:
It’s always difficult to say goodbye to a great player, especially one who has meant so much to the franchise. But if you’re going to give up Gary Payton, you can’t do much better than getting Ray Allen in return. The 6-foot-5 Allen is one of the game’s premier shooting guards, an elite player whom the franchise can rebuild around. He is signed through 2005, and at age 27, he’s entering his prime. The Sonics give up a great prospect in Desmond Mason, but he plays the same position as Allen. Seattle also is now thin at point guard (with the trade of Kenny Anderson to New Orleans), but Kevin Ollie should be able to handle the role until the team can upgrade over the summer. The Glove reuniting with George Karl in Milwaukee should be fun. Especially with Sam Cassell already at the point. Milwaukee must be hoping that Karl can harness that creative tension as he did so well all those years in Seattle. Seriously, the Bucks felt like they had to do something to shake up their lethargic team. With Payton and Mason joining a roster that already includes Cassell, Michael Redd, Tim Thomas, Toni Kukoc and Anthony Mason, they have some horses. Unfortunately, now they have only Joel Przybilla, Ervin Johnson and Dan Gadzuric in the middle. Also, Milwaukee must be able to re-sign Payton, 34, in the offseason or this trade will go down as a bust.
THE BOTTOM LINE by SI.com's Marty Burns  
After almost a year of waiting, the Sonics finally got a player worth Payton’s value. As heartbreaking as it might be for Seattle fans, the Glove was unhappy about not being offered a contract extension and his relationship with management had soured beyond repair. Now the Sonics can get on with rebuilding, and Allen is a pretty good piece with which to start. They won’t have the salary-cap room now, but the Jason Kidd-to-Seattle thing was a longshot anyway. As for the Bucks, they can put the Big Three Era completely in the past and move on. Even if they re-sign Payton, they should get him at lesser cost than Allen. Meanwhile, they have a roster full of fleet athletes and shooters who should make things more exciting if nothing else. And, in a side benefit, they keep Payton from landing in the clutches of their Central Division rivals, the Pacers.


 
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