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Good news in Green Bay

Send a question to Peter King Peter King's NFL Mailbag

Posted: Thu November 27, 1997

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. In the spirit of the holiday, I thought I'd throw a good-news story at you.

CNN/SI website reader Ken Fost of Bloomfield, N.J., e-mailed to ask, Can the Green Bay Packers' stock sale work at $200 a share? While I was in Green Bay last weekend, I got the lowdown on the stock offering. Team president Bob Harlan was only too happy to tell me about this modern variation of a barn-raising. This is cornball stuff, but it's good.

The Packers play in the smallest town in major pro sports (population: 96,000) and would therefore have trouble raising the tens of millions of dollars it would take to replace or thoroughly modernize Lambeau Field. So team management figured, Let's offer as many as 400,000 shares for sale at $200 apiece, with the understanding that it is an investment in the Packers' future.

It's not the first time the Packers have asked fans to come to the rescue. In 1950, 1,900 people bought shares worth $25 to prop up the team. No stock has been issued since. (Harlan is one of the original 1,900 buyers.) With this offering, the Packers figure there could be as many as 30,000 new stockholders.

"The reaction has been extraordinary," Harlan said. "We have local companies buying 10, 12 shares to give to employees as Christmas gifts. Bart Starr called me today from Alabama. He's got a bunch of friends who want to buy some shares. It's just a warm, very nice story. I think by the end of the year we'll have sold our 400,000 shares and raised the $80 million.''

Why, I wondered, are the Packers so desperate to save Lambeau?

LAMBEAU.JPG (25k) "I'd been batting around the idea of fixing Lambeau or building a new stadium," Harlan said. "And then, this summer, I was leaving the stadium one day after a training-camp practice. Just as I was about to exit, I saw a big van with Kansas license plates come into the lot, and I watched as the driver—a middle-aged man—got out of the van. He kneeled on the asphalt and bowed to the stadium, as if it was royalty. I realized that maybe we don't quite appreciate the depth of feeling that people have for this stadium."

So Harlan plans to use one chunk of the money, maybe $40 million, to modernize Lambeau as best he can. Then he'll invest the other chunk so that 20 years down the road—architects have told the Packers that Lambeau probably has that much time left—the team will be able to throw, say, $100 million into the kitty for either a complete Lambeau renovation or a new stadium.

Let's give thanks that there's still one bastion of tradition in the what-have-you-spent-for-me-lately world of pro sports.

Time for the questions of the week.

Now that the Rams have waived Lawrence Phillips and Emmitt Smith may be slowing down, can you picture Phillips in Dallas silver and blue?
Yahahn C. Thompson, Jacksonville, N.C.

Impossible. The Cowboys can afford only minimum-salary players until the cap rises about $5 million after the 1998 season. Phillips is making almost $2 million a year.

One other thing: Don't overrate Phillips. He never was the back in pro football that he was at Nebraska. He's not a fighter and when you have a struggling offensive line, like the Rams and Cowboys both have, you must be a fighter. The guy's a mediocre player.

Do NFL owners think the league was too generous with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Carolina Panthers when those franchises started? Will future expansion teams be treated as well?
J.R. Lennartson, Pittsburgh

Good question. Paul Tagliabue told me three weeks ago that if Cleveland gets an expansion team, it won't operate under the player-allocation rules that benefited the Jags and Panthers. Most personnel people have long held that the 1995 teams received a huge, unfair advantage by getting double draft picks for two years. The Jags and Panthers also had $20 million plus to spend in the free-agent market so the salaries of guys like Lamar Lathon, Mike Fox, John Kasay and Leon Searcy were pushed artificially high.

Next time the league expands there will likely be double draft picks the first year and limited access to free agents. In the second year, any extra draft picks could be based on the team's performance.

Which has been most detrimental to the Dallas Cowboys, coaching defections or free-agent losses?
Bret Richter, New York

A third element, I think: age. The offensive line has hurt the team most of all this year, largely because the left side, Mark Tuinei and Nate Newton, averages 36.5 years of age.

Of your two factors, I think one coaching defection is big, but you have to qualify that. If Jimmy Johnson had stayed, would he have been the damn-the-torpedoes, aggressive guy he was in his early Cowboys years? Or would have been fighting with Jerry Jones too much to be effective as a coach/GM?

When will the NFL announce plans for the new Cleveland Browns? Will a decision be made at the annual meetings in March or will the owners wait until next November?
Tim Mieyal, Cleveland

Sorry, Tim. It's looking more like November 1998, because too many uncertainties remain. The biggest two:

  • Will the Vikings move to L.A. or Houston or San Antonio, or stay in Minnesota under new ownership?

  • The new TV deal, which won't get done, I don't think, until February or March.

In the end, though, I think Cleveland will get an expansion team.

It's obvious Neil O'Donnell is not the future quarterback for the Jets. What is your assessment? How good do you think Glenn Foley will be? Will the Jets will acquire another QB?
Mark Kelly, Selden, N.Y.

O'DONNELL.JPG (19k) The Jets owe Neil O'Donnell $2.75 million on Feb. 20, so if he's not the No. 1 quarterback entering the offseason they might waive him and take a huge cap hit. I like Foley very much. If I knew he would stay healthy, I'd love him. But he's had two significant injuries now in, what, five NFL starts?

This is not an enviable position for Bill Parcells to be in. He's doing something very, very smart this offseason, though: sending option threat Ray Lucas, the former Rutgers quarterback, to the World League for professional seasoning. Lucas could be a nice insurance policy. He can run like Kordell Stewart or Mark Brunell. If he can throw even reasonably well, he could be a good pro backup in this era, when mobility is vital.

What's the word around the league on Michael Westbrook? Will he ever live up to his potential or does he just not have the desire to be one of the NFL's best receivers?
Dan Hargett, Fairfax, Va.

After Westbrook's pathetic finish against the Giants, when he negated his offensive productivity with a 15-yard unsportmanslike conduct penalty at the end of the game, I think most league people view him as a very talented guy who's a little fragile and a big baby.

Though the San Francisco defense has been riddled by injuries, it has still managed to be the best in the league. The Niners' defense has even been compared to the '85 Bears. How good is this 49ers defense?
Chris Collins, Columbia, S.C.

It's clearly the premier defense in the league today, and one of the two or three best of this decade. No DT combo in the '90s, when healthy, matches the talent and productivity of Dana Stubblefield and Bryant Young. Defensive ends Roy Barker and Chris Doleman are both significant pass-rush threats. The linebackers are better and more forceful than most people think; Gary Plummer has played like the 1992 Plummer this year.

The Niners have lost too much in the secondary to be considered a premier unit. Tim McDonald is a warrior, but he's hurt too much. Rod Woodson needs to make it through the end of the season to beat the injury rap he's had in recent years. Merton Hanks is terrific.

Despite all the good things I've said, I don't think these guys are close to the 1985 Bears. I don't think many defenses I've seen—other than the late-'80s Eagles, the mid-'80s Giants and the early-'90s Vikings and Cowboys—are close to those Bears in ability.

Have a good holiday.

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