Commentary, news, analysis and reader-driven discussions focusing on this year's NBA playoffs.
You probably know of what I speak. You've moved the good furniture out of the living room and you've hid the family heirlooms, the expensive imported albums, the good scotch that somebody else paid for, the fine silver -- and it all usually ends up out in the open of the party in question by the time the whole thing is over.
Golden State banked its entire playoff push on the abilities of its perimeter stars and semi-stars while trying to hide what could potentially harm them (Baron Davis' overall health, Al Harrington's inability to rebound, Stephen Jackson's penchant for losing control of his emotions). But, in the end, the Warriors were unable to reap the benefits of one evening's worth of food and spirits without the requisite nausea and headache coming into play.
It was fun while it lasted. The idea that a team could bank on its guards to do the bulk of the rebounding, run the ball down court and hoist up a trey -- not because it had an advantage or all-world three-point shooters, but because that initial bomb was probably the best percentage shot it would get in that possession -- it was intoxicating stuff. Bad pun, I'm aware, but TV viewers couldn't get enough of these guys, even after the novelty of the team's opening-round upset of Dallas wore off and the Utah Jazz were introduced. The Jazz seemed to fit in like a mason jar full of milquetoast at a lights-out raver, but they kept up, stayed cool, and won out -- while the besotted Warriors seemed a bit dizzy, doing and saying things they didn't mean and being desperately in need of a nap.
By the end of the conference semifinals, with the Warriors' three-point acumen having dried up and the Jazz refusing to back down, things started to get ugly. Davis' elbow to the head of Derek Fisher in Game 4 seemed quite suspension-worthy. Jackson let his frustrations affect his play late in that loss, and it carried over to an embarrassing meltdown in the face of the referees in Game 5. And Jason Richardson could have ended Mehmet Okur's career with his flagrant foul at the end of Game 4.
The whole thing seemed like a basketball version of a happenin' shindig on its last legs: the good always coming with the bad, sooner than you'd think, and rare are the instances where you can separate one from the other.
The Warriors couldn't. What made them great also made them a second-round flameout, one that had its embarrassing moments even when things were running nicely. But you don't get a chance to embarrass yourself unless you reveal the entirety of your character to the public, be it spurred on by competition mixed with adrenaline or a living room turned dance floor mixed with libations. These Warriors, they put it all out there, and in an era where the distance between athlete and observer seems to be growing by the day, this team's passion should be applauded.
It was fun. And my head hurts, but it was worth it.
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What can I say? Perfect blog I've read so far about that historic run.
A Bulls recovery from 0-3 to upset the Pistons won't mean as much.
I must admit the ending was painfully ugly. So ugly that I had to change the channel.
However I never expected them to get as far as they did in the 2nd round, and the first three games was theirs to lose.
In the end, inexperience and a determination clock that was set to a goal of reaching the playoffs, then pushed further to upset the world scheme of things, by destroying the Maverics, made the last two games look like a puppet show at the end of a ten year run.
I do expect them back however with their mind clocks wound up, to at least the third round next year and was flabergasted that I never knew how good Baron Davis was all these years.
Sure, the Warriors shocked the NBA world when they beat the Mavericks. They have an exciting brand of basketball in "nellieball". But as they lost control of their emotions (and realized they weren't as good of a team as the Jazz were) they started to play dirty. The composure of the Jazz, playing through the cheapshots and poor sportsmanship, speaks volumes for the character of this team. Most teams would lose their temper and fight back (Suns/Spurs), but the Jazz have a lot more class than that.
I would agree. It was so fun to watch the first series as a Utah fan. I fell in love with the warriors. Soon enough they were on the "bad guys" list as soon as they almost took the Jazz in their home court. I never ceased to be amazed at how simply awesome Baron was. And last but not least, it was great to see Jackson hug Sloan after Game 5 and see how honorable Golden State left the stage giving their "congrats" to the Jazz. Awesome run Golden State!
Only series really worth watching unless the Bulls make it exciting tonight. Knew GS wouldn't beat them but unlike others who call them dirty, I think the level of physical play allowed by the ref's made it frustrating for GS since physically, they were the smaller team. Carlos & Matt, with Okur physically pounded that skinny front line into frustration. Had the wacks or pushes been called then I don't feel the frustation comes out. Not a flagrant foul on Jackson vs Brown, dumb but not flagrant. Not on on Barnes either but I did notice on the same play Boozer with 2 hands pushing someone out the hole. Proud the Fisher showed BD he couldn't physically be him too. All in all this was what I call excitement in the NBA, now back to the dull series'. Oh yeah, great sportmanship by all afterwards and that's what its all about...
It was fun while it lasted. It gave the Bay Area something to cheer about. I'm proud of them, but of course dissapointed because we could've gone farther. But....I don't think they could've gotten past Phoenix in the 1st round had they passed the Lakers for the #7 seed. So it's nice to make it history. And this may be a stretch, and hypothetical, but thank Stephen Jackson. Not for his play for the Warriors, but because he hit a game winning 3 for Indiana in Oakland early in the year. A game GS should've one. One game the Warriors could've used to surpass the Lakers for the #7 seed. Funny isn't it? But it's still hypothetical.
in all honesty, everyone seems to be missing the fact that there was an additional factor holding the Warriors back: the officiating. I am not a Warriors fan, a Baron Davis fan, or even a Utah hater. So I tuned into this series because of the excitement of a Cinderella story combined with the up and coming Jazz, who under the prolific leadership of Jerry Sloan, have quietly been winning games with solid play.
But night after night -- including the Warriors win -- I noticed a distinct bias against Golden State. Fouls not being called on Utah, and ticky tack call against the Warriors. It was almost as if the NBA did not want them to advance. I'm not crying conspiracy, but it made me so frustrated that I ended up turning the TV off at time because it was too unbearable to watch.
Of course, the Warriors missed free throws down the stretch and at times executed like a high school team with no coach... and Utah played with confidence and poise...
I credit the officials giving Utah the edge and I don't blame Golden State for losing their cool, especially as the games progressed. Anyone who has played organized basketball knows that when the officiating is one-sided leads to immature acts, i.e. Baron Davis' elbow to Derek Fisher.
"Good friends"... yeah right.
At least this series produced one good outcome:
ONE OF THE BEST DUNKS IN NBA HISTORY. AT LEAST TOP 5.
These are good comments. The Warriors' playoff run was the best thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. It'd be great if the Bulls could upset the Pistons, but half of America is now losing interest in the NBA playoffs. It was painful when the Warriors let their emotions get the best of them, but, as the blogger and most of the commenters correctly note, it was great to be along for the ride.
Ticky tack fouls on the Warriors? ya right what game were you watching? I am a Jazz fan AND I was at the GAMES the dirty snake warriors got away with a heck of a lot more calls. Lets see BD elbowing Fish, did you see that or how about when in game 5 he tries to pull Fishes short off after he flops on the floor. This was a great game. It could of been called much better but the warrior fans have more to worry about then the not advancing. Nelli is about to leave town again I think.
Can you blame them for losing their cool in Game 5? Absolutely horrible officiating re: the flagrant foul on Jackson and the 2 T's. Just ridiculous. And the flop by Kirilenko to foul Barnes out? Disgusting. Interesting it was the same crew who booted Davis and Jackson in Game 2 of the Dallas series. Hmmmm
I think the officiating was bad against both teams.
They called ticky-tack fouls on Deron Williams and Derek Fisher in Game 3.
And then in Game 5, Monta Ellis and Matt Barnes both get clobbered near the hoop and the refs don't call anything.
It's hard to tell whether the refs are blind or not. And actually looking at the replays, that hard foul by Richardson against Okur in Game 4 wasn't as bad as it looked on TV. Richardson only hit Okur's arms but it looked bad because Okur lost his balance and fell hard to the floor. Didn't deserve a Flagrant 2 & ejection in my opinion.
Yes give GS some credit for pushing the ball and for bringing some excitement, but NO ONE can blame GS on loosing their cool on the refs. I believe I watched the same series but to me it seemed that the NBA ref conspiracy was favoring GS. All the ticky-tack fouls on Williams and Fisher to get them out of the game? All the thug like street ball GS was playing. Seemed like they were getting away with quite a bit. Another point: Davis and Richardson not suspended for their conduct in Game 4?? Much worse than the Horry foul!! I think the NBA wanted GS to win because Utah is not a big market. But no need to worry. Utah will beat the refs and their next opponent to go to the finals and burst the NBA executives plan for it to be San Antonio.
Oh ya, the NBA is full of conspiracy!! The NBA definately wants San Antonio to advance.
half of america loosing interest? You have to much pride in yourself and the warriors.
Refs favor the Jazz that has never happened.
6/30 3 point shooting that's just ugly ball.
THe first round was exciting but alas cinderlla had to go to bed.
Interesting how the officiating can certainly be viewed from different perspectives...
I would change the above as follows..."in all honesty, everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that there was an additional factor holding the Jazz back: the officiating. I am not a Jazz fan, a Derek Fisher fan, or even a Warriors hater. So I tuned into this series because of the excitement of a Cinderella story combined with the up and coming Jazz, who under the prolific leadership of Jerry Sloan, have quietly been winning games with solid play.
But night after night -- including the Warriors win -- I noticed a distinct bias against Utah. Fouls not being called on Warriors, and ticky tack call against the Jazz (look at the treatment of Deron Williams in the first minutes of the games). It was almost as if the NBA did not want the Jazz to advance. I'm not crying conspiracy, but it made me so frustrated that I ended up turning the TV off at time because it was too unbearable to watch.
Of course, the Jazz missed free throws down the stretch and at times executed like a high school team with no coach... but finally Utah played with confidence and poise...
I credit the officials giving Golden State an edge..."
Come on man don’t use the officiating as an excuse. I wont disagree that the officiating wasn’t good at all. But the Jazz were in as much foul trouble as GS. Infact I bet GS took way more free throws which is impressive when you are launching 3s vs going down low. There are 3 reason GS lost: 3 point % dropped every game, out rebounded by 20 every game, and the points in the paint. I loved it when GS beat Dallas but I also made a bet with a buddy right after they closed them out saying there was no way they advance. You cant rely on 3 pointers forever.
GS was fun to watch. The series with Utah got chippy, to say the least, but the Warriors carried that 'underdog' attitude to the very end. One of the most memorable playoff runs in a long time.
Dude, Deron Williams was in foul trouble 3 out of 5 games. How is that referee bias against GSW?!
I guess you see what you want to see. For those complaining about the Jazz getting the benefit of the calls, I'll just cite one example from someone who saw it differently.
Game 5: Baron Davis posts up and backs right into Williams chest. Williams goes down. Foul on Williams.
Game 5: About a quarter later, Williams posts up and back right into Mote Ellis' chest. Ellis goes down. Foul on Williams.
Same officiating crew. Identical play. Both calls go against the Jazz starting point guard.
Well, that's history and I also want to congratulate the Warriors on a great run. I loved seeing them beat Dallas but I also feared them at the same time - even more than I feared Dallas.
Loved the class displayed by Nelson throughout the entire series. He was always respectful of his opponent. The players came around at the end and showed that they too had some sportsmanship.
As a Jazz fan, this was a memorable series.
warriors flame out in round two was as predictable as it was regrettable
I just wish the Suns could have gotten a fair shake from the league and the refs
sans GSW and PHX the playoffs are a snooze, think about it, do you want to see these match ups?:
Spurs vs. Jazz *yawn*
Bulls vs. Pistons *burp*
Cavs vs. Nets *puke*
Just give me the Suns in a game 7 before it is over...
Spurs will need an '*' by their 2007 title -to go with their 1999 *
I am a long suffering Warriors fan and as much as it hurt to seem them lose this series, I can sleep at night knowing we had a great run.
Yes we play immature and we don't make all the right decisions and we have no low post big-man, but we play inspired ball and it everyone who watches this team play feels it.
The team loves Nellie and we hope he makes it back one more year and if we make a move or two we might get bigger, but remember how much fun it was to watch the playoffs this year, as to earlier years.
Refs need to let them play.
I'M DYING TO WATCH GOLDEN STATE IN NEXT YEAR'S PLAYOFFS!
Whoever made the comment that the officials held the Warriors back must have been watching a different series. Matt Barnes did get a raw deal in game five, but for most of the series, Baron Davis did his best Dwyane Wade impression (bury head, run into someone, wait for foul). Actually, I just got called for a foul just for typing about him.
Also, the conspiracy theory makes no sense. The best outcome for ratings would have been G State vs. Phoenix.
The Warriors got beat because they don't have enough balance. Imagine that team with someone like Amare or Boozer, a post-up threat that isn't too plodding to slow them down. That way they could work inside-out. That would get them past the second round and beyond.
I am appalled that you can laud a team while admitting the cheap shots (e.g., Baron on Derek), potential career-ending injury on Okur, and could have also said what Jackson did to a player recently hurt. No wonder there is increasing violence problems in society with the media saying how great "bad people" are.
To the guy who said the officials were biased against golden state...have you ever watched organized basketball before? seriously? GS shouldn't even have had richardson or davis for game 5, but who can make sense of Stu Jackson lately? I was on the 5th row for game 5 and i was amazed at all the off the ball cheapshots being delivered by GS. You don't see that on TNT. It was like pro wrestling...like where the official gets banged with a chair while the champ pins the villan and nobody is there to count him out. Utterly ridiculous. Baron Davis plays like and angry teenage girl. Grabbing D. Williams ankle after they both fell to the floor. Grabbing D. Fisher's shorts on a similar play.. I have no respect for him after that. He's bushleague pure and simple.
They matched well with the Mavericks and that was their entire story. I don't buy the "feel good" hype the media gave them or the conspiracy theories about the NBA being against them.
Any talent they have was out-shadowed by their characters. Even B. Davis who I used to think of as a class act, turned out to be just like the rest of his crew: thuggish.
I am not a Dallas fan but the truth is that the Warriors had no business being among the elite of the NBA. We'll see how they fair among each other knowing their personalities next season if their season tanks.
At what point did you think the officiating favored Utah? Was it when Deron Williams wasn't allowed to play the first half of every game because of HORRIBLE calls? Or was it when Baron Davis lowered his shoulder on every play and shoved people out of the way? Please tell me you accidentally hit the find and replace button on your computer and foolishly put Jazz when you meant to put that the Warriors got the benefit of the officiating. That's how they stayed close. Look at the stats. We all respect what the Warriors did against the Mavs. And that there owner owes $160M in back taxes, but they were completely outplayed and outclassed. It will be nice to see how many of the fairweather Warrior fans in the Bay Area care about this team next year.
who cares about the officiating?
who cares whether they belonged to be there?
the warriors provided exciting basketball, something that seems to have disappeared from both conferences.
It's cheap for Jazz fans to keep saying that Warrior fans are all "fairweather". Sure, with every up and coming team in sports you will find some "fairweather" fans claiming the team, but make no mistake about it, the Bay Area has a strong following who have endured the forgettable past years. By the way, about the motto "We Believe"...that was written on the poster of a die-hard Warrior fan who started displaying it a little after the All-Star break. We always believe in our team, we are not going anywhere. On that note, I am not a Jazz hater. They were the better team in the series. The W's had no answer for Boozer, Fisher played with determination, and our guys lost their cool in every game. Refs had bad calls going both ways. Good luck to Utah in the Western Finals, can't wait to see Utah and Dallas next year!
I'am a Warriors fan.I do think that the refs let too much go on both sides.I just dont like the way the NBA promotes all these offensive stars like Kobe,Lebron,Wade,Nash,teams like the Bulls,Phoenix,Dallas,and Denver during the season.Then in a total 180,let defenses just murder each other in the playoffs.
I believe thats what set off the Warriors against the Jazz.Why the Jazz kept their cool was because this was their style to play physical and rough.The Warriors(like the Suns in the Spurs series)were getting beat up under the hoop and not getting the calls they were recieving during the regular season.It got confusing and frustrating.
To me,the Warriors were the better team,but The Jazz had the better team built fot playoff style.I'm so proud of the Warriors,and I do give props to the Jazz as well.
I thought the refs had it out for the Warriors. Sample awful sequence in game 5:
Barnes ahead of the field is fouled hard by Kirilenko from behind. No call. The ball is loose on the floor and Fisher dives, controls the ball and rolls over while sliding. Clear travelling. No call.
Jazz gain possession. Two terrible no-calls in one play.
If you know the rules of basketball your jaw was on the floor in disbelief.
By the way, if D. Williams wants to stay out of foul trouble tell him to stop hacking.
All you pro-sport fanatics. Get a life. It's just a bunch of grown men playing a kid's game.
That one sequence exemplified the entire officiating bias into one play. Terrible no call. Frustrating loss, but at least people watched. The league needs more teams, and fans, to care like the Warriors did.
The officiating in this series and every other series is awful. Why can't the NBA call games like the NCAA. It seems like everybody I talk to about this problem concurs that college basketball is their preferred basketball from a spectators perspective. The NBA needs to quit trying to create a different "more exciting" brand of basketball and just play by NCAA rules. Get rid of the defensive three second call and the no charge zone. Bring defense back. Also something must be done about flopping. Flopping should be handled like a delay of game call - a warning for the first flop and a technical foul shot awarded for each subsequent flop. It's no wonder that neither Warriors fans nor Jazz fans thought the officiating was fair. The NBA has created an inferior product to the NCAA. Remember Deron Williams has only been in the NBA for two years, so give him another couple of years and instead of being in foul trouble every game, he'll have developed a fine flop move and he'll be allowed to stay in the game. Pathetic officiating all the way around.
Another Warriors fan here. I truly believed that the team could have went far if the situations worked out correct, but unfortunately didn't when Rockets did not beat the Jazz.
In my opinion, the refs were seriously doing a bad job. Not bias toward Warriors or the Jazz but both teams. Fouls for both teams were called way too casually.
Honestly, I knew that Jazz would ultimately win in 7 games due to home-court, but won in 5 because of the horrible calls on both sides.
Overall I felt that the NBA and its referees really messed up this year's playoffs, especially after the suspension of Amare and Boris for the Suns.
This is why people are losing interest in the NBA. Everytime a team loses its always the refs fault. The refs are not going to get every call right, they have never every call right even during the NBA's best years (Magic, Larry, and Jordan years). But back then people didn't whine and moan about the refs like people do now. Sounds like Warriors fans wanted all the calls to go against the Jazz and the Jazz fans wanted all the calls to go against the Warriors, thats typical in the NBA; what sports fan doesn't want all the calls to go their teams way and it has always been that way but the difference is in today's NBA to many fans are dragging the game down with their constant whining over it. The Jazz were going to beat the Warriors everbody knows that but they act like the refs made the difference. And what's with all these stupid conspiracy theories everybody has, all these people talking about "thats why the NBA is losing interest because Stern wants a high rated finals" What is the IQ of basketball fans nowadays to think the NBA has some "hidden agenda" for Stern's favorite team to make the finals like when people say Spurs and Lakers are Stern's team. Spurs and Lakers made the finals for so many years because they were (and for Spurs still are) the best team in the game. Before Heat got eliminated people said any team with Shaq is Stern's favorite team. I wish these idiotic NBA fans quit bringing the NBA down with complaining about the refs every game after every call and crying conspiracy theories. For example, if there was a conspiracy theory it would the Heat vs Lakers in the finals to see Kobe vs Shaq ft. the acrobatic Dwayne Wade. Prime example the Suns fans, a Suns player can clothesline another player and everybody in "The Valley of the Sun" will start hollering about "the refs trying to cheat us". The NBA is a fun and exciting game and whichever teams make the finals they go because they deserve to be there and not because Stern and Stu Jackson are telling the refs: "Don't call fouls on Duncan call them on Amare" and "Make sure Pistons win this game". It's BS and it's a tiring arguement from the fans so please, SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE GAME.
Props to the Jazz for the win but 5 4th qtr leads means the dubs were in every game. 6 less pts and 4 less boards from Boozer and it's an entirely different series. Someday the Warriors will get a solid power forward and compete with the best in the league.
Until then even UT fans will have to agree; the Jazz have never been as fun to watch! Not for anyone outside of UT anyhow. Your welcome.
I am a G.S. fan and the officiating favored B. Davis and the warriors guards, but it also favored the Forwards of the Jazz. Yes Fisher and Williams got some ticky tack fouls on them, but Boozer, AK-47 Milsap and Okur got away with murder. There is a reason why the Jazz comitted the most fauls during the regular season. The officials allowed phyiscal play inside the paint, which heavily favored Utah. I gurantee this that the Utah forwards will get into a lot of foul trouble when they play the Spurs. In the NBA the game is officaited based on the name on the jersey and Ducan will get calls that the warriors didnt. I also beleive that Stephen Jackson was not getting any calls due to his reputation, but i would also agree that Jackson needs to control his emotions.
I also beleive that every serries the warriors played in had the highest t.v. ratings. They play a fun and entering brand of basketball and actually can score in the hundreds unlike every team in the east,espcially the Cavs and Nets which is the worst playoff serries that i watched in the last ten years. The Jazz and Spurs serries, if that happens, will be hard to watch.
It was a great, hard fought series but a lot of people are trying to make excuses for GS losing.
From a completely unbiased point of view it was obvious from the get go that the Jazz were the better team. You can't win a championship from behind the 3 point line (until someone proves otherwise).
You need to control the tempo, control the boards, spread the floor with your shooters, and then pound the ball in the paint. An inside/out game will win over a narrowly focused team 9 times out of 10 (which is why GS beat Dallas).
I don't see how any true basketball fan can say that watching the Jazz are boring, their execution is sublime. The way they rebound and move up the floor is what you want your team to do. How many games did the Jazz score well over 100 points in that series? All but one I believe... That's not boring basketball.
Finally the officiating was absolution abysmal. It was not however biased against the Warriors. Derron Williams did NOT hack Boom in the early minutes. Check the replay, Baron lowered his shoulder and ran into him. Of those 4 early fouls (2 each game) only one should have been called.
In addition Davis should not have been allowed to play in game 5 although I'm glad that he did (otherwise we'd see more whining on boards like this). Rules being rules he should have been watching from his hotel room after that elbow to Fishers face.
Jazz in 5, the better team did win.
the league should watch out for the championship composure that I have witnessed from the Jazz, from the Series 1 comeback from 0-2 and game 7 Road victory, through retaining gameface despite the dirty plays of GSW...they were the comeback kings of November and they are only peaking now...NBA beware, we're looking at the new champs here
Jazz fan here. I think we were lucky to win this series for 2 very simple reasons - turnovers and perimeter defense. How do you win in the NBA committing well over 20 turnovers per game? How do you win with the opponents shooting over 40% from 3-land, game 5 excepted? And how did GS stay in game 5 through 3.5 quarters? By the Jazz missing 11 of their first 22 free throws - 6 of them in a row in the fourth! If the Jazz had truly execuited well, none of the UT wins would have been even close. They had all the right players to destroy GS. I think we were lucky to survive them. If UT doesn't start taking much better care of the ball, Chuck is going to send them fishing in 4.
My favorite thing about these message boards is entries that look something like this:
"I am unbiased and not a fan of the Jazz/Warriors, however...[insert long rant on why the Jazz/Warriors were victimized by the officials here]"
I am a Jazz fan, and I was getting really frustrated with the calls against Utah's guards and all the reaching and grabbing once Utah got the ball inside. However, if I were a Warriors fan, I'm sure I would have seen things differently. The NBA has terrible refs, but at least it gives every team's fans the chance to play victims.
The great thing about both teams is that they haven't once blamed the refs. From the coaches to the players, no Phil Jackson-like excuses. These teams are showing more class than some of their fans.
Jason Richardson did what any NBA player would. Anyone who tries to throw down a dunk on your home floor in an already decided game with seconds left deserves a hard foul. Take your jump shot or hold the ball. Taking it hard to the hole for a monster jam and your fair game.
To the blogger who suggested the NBA wants San Antonio in the finals. That is the most ludicrous statement I've heard since hearing O.J. was innocent.
Why would the NBA want the same team in the finals that brought the lowest rattings in the past ten years?
I don't know about the rest of you who live outside the San Antonio fan base, but if San Antonio does go on to beat Pheonix and Utah, I know I won't be watching the finals. If I wanted to watch perfectly executed fundamentals, I'd go to Junior High, where they teach it.
The NBA doesn't have "terrible refs." The pro game, because of the speed and the exacting NBA rule book, is just a near-impossible game to call.
The NBA refs are the best in the world, there aren't any undiscovered diamonds in the international/college roughs that are yet to have been discovered. These guys are the best, but they're going to screw up -- a lot -- because the game is so tough to call. The best hitters in baseball get hits in one out of every three at bats. It's pretty much the same way with NBA refs.
Adios Warriors. Fun to watch the run-and-gun street ball. Fun to watch so many unheralded players step up and hit big shots. Fun to watch Nellie get payback from Mark Cuban in the 1st round and show the hype about being a "mad genius" isn't all hype. Davis' mugging of Fisher and Jackson looking like he is auditioning for "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest......not so much fun.
Kelly does a decent job with his blog, but his observations have become more cliche as time goes by. Hey, Kelly, now that both Carlisle and JVG have been fired, are you ever going to man up about your "On what planet?" quote. Should teach you to put a bit more thought before you call out people. You probably had money on Bavetta too, huh?
Oddly enough, I'm a huge Mavs fan, but I have to admit, once I got over the pain of seeing them eliminate my Mavs, I was rooting HARD for them in the next series. It's been a long time since I've seen a group of guys play that hard night in and night out. Kudos to Golden State. Was a lot of fun to watch...after I got over the misery of Dallas losing. :)
My Anon friend, Bill (in an otherwise spot-on column) said that JVG, Carlisle, and Skiles were all going to be available this summer -- and that's out and out tripe. As long as Paxson is around in Chicago (and as long as Reinsdorf owns the team, that will be for a while), Skiles has near-Sloan level security. To suggest that all three would be around this summer is way, way off. That was my contention, sorry about the confusion.
That's what I get for just taking it one game at a time. I mean, both teams play hard, and I'm just trying to give my best. My teammates were great, and the big guy above blessed us, so I'm just trying to stay aggressive and let the chips fall where they may. Of course, others are going to up the ante, but I've got an Ace up my sleeve -- and while it may allow me to lead a horse to water, I don't think I can make him drink.
It seems to me that the officials loosened up on the hand-checking rule a lot in the playoffs, and on perimeter contact in general. I thought defenders couldn't slap or push guys on the perimeter but I saw a lot of that in the GS/UJ series and Phoenix/SA. Maybe I am just not used to watching Bruce Bowen and he gets that treatment all the time. I think even though the refs may not have had bias toward a particular team, their allowing more contact on the perimeter did hurt "finesse" teams like GS and Phoenix. Utah had an overwhelming inside advantage in that series and they used it, but on the flip side Golden State had a total speed advantage. They couldn't capitalize partly because of the officiating but definitely also due to poor decisions. They passed up so many open lanes to the basket, especially in game 5, which may have had to do with fatigue. Hopefully they will benefit from a training camp and full season together.
When you look into the rule book for basketball, its description is that it is a non-contact sport. It is amusing that the big guys hammer away down low and don't get called for their fouls. Small ball is the way the game is suppose to be played. When someone posts up another player and simply rams their back sides into the defender it should be a offensive foul every time. There really should be way more offensive fouls called every game. Players like Shaq and Boozer really irritate me. I know that is the way the game is played these days but it takes a lot out of the game. Why do you think the casual fans liked to watch the Warriors? They play old style of run and gun like the way basketball used to be played. Not these low scoring 82-75 games!!!!!
Aren't the playoffs supposed to heat up as they go forward? I couldn't care less about the remaining teams. I hope the inevitable spurs pistons finals generates new lows in TV ratings. no need to boycott... just do something interesting. NBA basktaball has been robbed of its drama by an incompetent league office (among other things).
Ruin Okur's career are you kidding?
The dude has never dunked on anyone or gone hard to the lane and then in a blowout with the game pretty much over he's gonna go in for a taunting dunk. J Rich showed kids how your supposed to play: hard and never giving up. Have you ever played a sport and done anything athletic. Would you have allowed him to dunk in your face?
What a gibroni for writing the article.
I hate it when people with no lives try to rip on sports fans. If you have nothing to do at midnight on a Friday night, that's great. But going to a sports website just so you can try and rip on sports fans just shows how empty your life is.
That said, Golden State gave NBA fans something they had not seen in a long while; a bona fide underdog. Before the playoffs, everyone was tagging that series as a POTENTIAL upset, but no one wanted to voice that suspicion, because Dallas was by far the best team all season. Then, Golden State goes out, bullies Dirk, gets in Avery's head, runs the court, scores at will, basically catches the best team in recent memory with their pants down. Their exciting style makes them one of the few teams that will make the NBA interesting again. Thank you for a magical season.
PS Anyone who thinks that GS was too dirty in that series should watch some Knicks tapes from the mid 90s. That was dirty, physical playing, and the NBA should be moving back towards that, not away from it.
I hate it when people try and rip on sports fans. We get it, its a game. But that doesn't mean that we can't get the same adrenaline rush from a tomahawk jam or an ankle breaking crossover as you do from an especially interesting line of computer data. Next time you have nothing to do at midnight on a Friday, try looking for friends. Not going to a website that you apparently hate, reading a blog, and posting an incredibly ignorant comment. Or, just try watching a football game or a basketball game rather than just mocking people who do. Who knows, some day, people might actually like you.
I loved watching the Warriors this year. Nelly and his entire team got together to beat the Mavs. Everyone played extra hard so that Nellie could beat his old team. That said, the Warriors aren't going anywhere from here. Sure, they gave basketball faithful a shot of adrenaline for a few weeks, but they're not a very good team. JRich and Baron are the worst 1,2 combo at the charity stripe, big Al is terrified of being near the basket in the half court set, and Steven Jackson is a jail sentence waiting to happen. This is a team that might be a playoff regular for a couple years, but at the 8th seed, not the 4th. Just because they beat Dallas doesn't mean that we can expect them to be better than Dallas next year, or anytime soon.
The Jazz, on the other hand, are one of the best young teams in the league. This team is as tough, hardnosed and smart as any team in the league. They will be a contender for many years to come, and will give coach Sloan a ring, and hopefully the coach of the year award (Sam Mitchell? COME ON)
Richardson almost ended Okur's career? Give me a break.
Next time Okur will know it is common knowledge you don't try to attempt a dunk when up by 10+ with the clock ticking down to zero.
JRich did what every other player in the league would do. And please, he fouled him on his arms. Didn't go for his head or try to undercut him. Not his fault Okur is an uncordinated oaf...the reason he never tries to dunk in "real" game situations.
So it is OK for J Rich to mug Okur at the end of an already decided game for going for the dunk.
Would it also be OK to have AK nail Baron Davis for dunking at the end of an already decided game?
As a Jazz fan of course my team gets the bad calls on fouls – I thought that in the Houston series right up till I saw Ming get hacked across the wrists so hard it hurt all the way in Utah – no call. Part of cheering for a team is just that – of course my team wins against all odds. I was happy they didn’t suspend Richardson or Baron – come on folks this is playoff basketball bring you best team and your best game lets get it on! The real question for GS fans is how in the heck did you lose to a team that committed 20 turnovers in a game? Maybe your game was a little off that night.
Also if nobody else says it – the Spurs did not win because of the officials – they play took it to the Jazz inside, outside and probably in the parking lot after the game
No, it wouldn't be okay for AK to nail Baron on his dunk. Baron went for his dunk when both teams were still playing competitively with all their starters on the court. AK went in to block Baron's shot. There was more than 2 minutes left in the game.
Okur went for dunk with less than 10 seconds in the game, with all the players just standing around waiting for the clock to tick down to zero.
It is a lack of respect for Okur to try to dunk that. If you don't realize that, take off your Jazz-blinders.
Just to make sure i got this right. I agree it showed a lack of respect sorta like the forearm slam from Baron to Fisher -
But back to this let me see if i follow - if one team gives up the other team can only score on jump shots - and the stuff about starters I thought it was a starter that committed the foul maybe i'm wrong -
Maybe we need a league rule! it's ok to take out another teams players if we are under what would you say 30 seconds maybe in a game that has been decided. and how many starters off the court do you see? - two three one. Hmmm maybe we can get the ref's to call it and leave it to them.
lol - i don't know. Of course my team was right that's why they call us fans it think. If we didn't do it then we could write for SI.