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Giambi's still sorry, sort of
Actually, let's allow Giambi to speak in his own words: "I was wrong for doing that stuff. What we should have done a long time ago was stand up -- players, ownership, everybody -- and said: 'We made a mistake.'"
In truth, that's quite refreshing. Then BALCO Boy goes and messes things up with this whopper: "That stuff didn't help me hit home runs. I don't care what people say, nothing is going to give you that gift of hitting a baseball."
Not that old trope again. Hey Jason, if the steroids didn't help you, then why would you need to apologize for "the stuff"?
Yes, it's true, steroids don't "give you that gift of hitting a baseball." Otherwise, guys would be walking right from Muscle Beach to the batter's box at Dodgers Stadium.
But it's a long way from that fact to the conclusion that steroids don't help one hit home runs -- provided one already has that world-class ability to make contact with a baseball. If using steroids can help make one 10 percent stronger than otherwise, for argument's sake, then wouldn't one expect (all other things being equal) the ball to travel somewhat further when one does make solid contact? Wouldn't that turn some fly balls that might previously have been caught into home runs that clear the fence?
If steroids (and HGH) can also help one stay unusually strong and not wear down as much as one's opponents during the long grind of a baseball season, wouldn't that help an already talented player hit more home runs than he otherwise would?
And isn't it possible that these benefits might, over the course of 500+ at-bats for an already talented batter with good natural power, account for maybe 15 extra home runs? And what's the difference between a player who hits 25 vs. 40 home runs a season? Oh, let's start the bidding at about $5 million a year.
Yes, the beefed-up steroids slugger has to face some pitchers who are likely juicing too. No, the steroids can't substitute for talent, merely augment it. But please, disgraced sluggers need to stop trotting out the "steroids don't help you hit home runs" argument. It's just plain silly.
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i totally agree. if it doesnt help you, then why even take it in the first place?
Do not try to apply logic to a situation where it seems to not exist. It might make you go insane.
(Or I could just say that I agree with you.)
it's these types of impenetrable arguments that you make that make me wonder how you're not doing more for SI. Well said.
So, did anyone else notice the sign that presumably says "Postively No Admittance <---" next to his head in the picture?
Pete -- you are so on the money.
Even if they don't help a hitter hit the ball farther (and I have swamp land in Florida for you too) then wouldn't the extra strength enable a hitter to turn on a pitch that much quicker meaning they have even that fraction of a second longer to wait to decide if its a good pitch before turning on it and crushing it?
If steroids don't work then home come all the prolific hitters from this era are slowly either admitting to it or are under a dark cloud?
Frankly, I think Selig is on 'roids too.
Maybe I am being naive, but I give the guy credit for honesty, even in the presence of a stupid statement like this. More than anything else, this is what kills me about Barry Bonds. Without the juice, he would likely have been regarded as the best all around player ever, and ended up the #3 home run hitter ever. But he wanted those extra 15 feet on the fly balls, to be the best ever. That is where GREED enters the conversation. And GREED is why the playoffs go on forever, the mid-Summer double header is gone, and young fans can no longer afford to go to baseball games. At least Giambi - unlike Bonds, McGwire, Palmiero and apparently Landis - is honest enough to say he used the stuff. - Doc
his head used to be pea-sized and he got sick of getting teased about it.
I didn't know JeGi said the last part: "That stuff didn't help me hit home runs. I don't care what people say, nothing is going to give you that gift of hitting a baseball." It wasn't reported where I first read it but what a moronic statement. Everyone who knows a bit about hitting knows power comes from BAT SPEED. How does one generate more? By getting stronger so Giambit while I do personally appreciate you finally coming out, you could at least not sound as stupid as you normally do, LOL!
Maybe I am being naive, but I give the guy credit for honesty, even in the presence of a stupid statement like this. More than anything else, this is what kills me about Barry Bonds. Without the juice, he would likely have been regarded as the best all around player ever, and ended up the #3 home run hitter ever. -- Uh, no, absolutely NOT. Bonds would've ended up with about 500 HRs if that many. Base ball player ever? Absolutely not!!! How one could compare him to a Ruth, Aaron, Mays, Manlte, Clemente is beyond me, and certainly nowhere near the greatest hitter of all times: Ted Williams! Williams lost more than two seasons due to military service, look it up, he would've ended up w/ 600+ HRs and .340 career BA. And don't wanna downplay the greatness of Josh Gibson.
So no, Bonds might be Top 50 of all time but without the juice I wouldn't even put him in the Top 100.
And don't forget batting average - in a 600 AB season, those 15 new home runs (that would have been warning track fly-outs) also tack on 25 points to your batting average...
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