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Pro Evolution Soccer '07 review
Occasionally I'll flip past TV Land or Nick or Nite, and 10 minutes later I'll find myself engrossed in a rerun of Cheers or The Andy Griffith Show or some other show from the B.C. era. (Before Cable, if you were wondering.) I will watch for a while, and usually I'll enjoy the program, laughing at the hijinks of Barney Fife or whoever. These shows are usually outdated and possibly in black-and-white, but the content is so well executed that they're completely worth watching. And then I'll flip the channels again and end up on some show on Discovery HD. The shows on Discovery HD are generally dry, boring programs that do very little to entertain me. But I end up watching them for an hour anyway, just because they're in HD and look amazing. Which is a better option? I'm not sure. Is there a right or wrong choice? Probably not. Basically, I'm choosing between style and function. Generally speaking, this is the same conundrum I find myself confronting regarding the two newest soccer simulations on the market: FIFA 07 and the newly released Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007. I reviewed FIFA 07 a few months ago, and that review remains on point. FIFA 07 for the Xbox 360 is a stunning video game, but the actual soccer lags behind the look of the game. And after a week of playing the first next-gen version of Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer on my Xbox 360, I'm convinced that this game is the opposite of FIFA: Not the prettiest game, but the central content -- the actual soccer -- is pretty darn good. For those who are longtime console soccer players, the Winning Eleven games have always held almost a mystical appeal. While EA Sports purchased the rights to all the players and leagues, Konami's Winning Eleven series was never as polished, never included as many real teams or players, but the gameplay was always terrific. I've always hated this. Unless it's illegal -- as in the NCAA Football games - if a company wants us to believe they're fully committed to producing the best game possible, they should shell out the money and put it out there. (Much like I feel sports owners should do, but that's another column.) Winning Eleven has always used a bunch of weird stage names for some of the world's best teams. North East London, for example, remains the alias of Tottenham Hotspur. This year, new teams include Boca Juniors (a.k.a. Patagonia). And unlike in the PlayStation 2 version of the series, there's no way to change the team name. And to me, it's just not as much fun as it could be otherwise to play a season as North East London in a league that has no name. (Also, the U.S. National Team players all have fake names. If you don't mind going through and changing all their names, it's not a problem.) Another strike against Winning Eleven is that it just isn't as pretty as FIFA 07. The load screens in FIFA allow you to practice one-on-one moves against a keeper, and the fonts and black background are elegant. Winning Eleven, with its bright white screens and dull graphics, can seem a bit more haphazard and less put together. The one place where Winning Eleven really stands out is in the actual soccer. FIFA plays fine and looks great, but you can't play real soccer, at least not like they play on TV. So you have to get used to making long runs up the middle and playing short corners every time. Winning Eleven is a lot more realistic -- short, quick passes pay off, and if you pause in midfield to look around, you'll almost certainly have the ball stolen. It's also much harder (and realistic) than it is in FIFA to beat a defender off the dribble. It's tough to score, but that's what makes it the beautiful game.
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Comments:if there going to be a FIFA and/or Winning Eleven for PS3?
thanks I think you've caught some sort of terrible disease, like the rest of the world. Konami's games are fantastic, but to paint FIFA as all graphics with little gameplay just isn't true anymore. Your complaints of not scoring from crosses, I can only chalk to your ineptitude. I admit that the AI of FIFA is certainly behind that of PES, but the game play has come light years since the farce of 2003. EA might be behind, but only ever so slightly.
I've been playing winning eleven since they came out with winning eleven 3(about 8 years ago), and no matter how good fifa tries to make the grafics good, it cannot compare to winning. so if u dont know any soccer, u'll like fifa, but if u actually do know how to play, you'll find winning 10000 times better. fifa improved a lot this year but still is waaaay behind winning
The XBox 360 offering isn't really a full port of the game; some of the 360 code didn't get to Konami in time to allow a full-featured release. Thus, this shouldn't be considered the true next-gen sequel of the Winning Eleven franchise. It's just a way for early adopters to keep enjoying the superb gameplay without having to dust off the old XBox or PS2.
Winning Eleven (Pro Evolution) has never had the licensed teams, but to make up for this, they've allowed complete editing of teams and players. For those of us who want that realism, there are any number of fan-created option files that fully update all the kits, players and names. In true open-source spirit, some of these fan-based implimentations are even better than FIFA's offical licensing. Google search: PES Option File and you'll see what I mean. I own both FIFA and WE:PES 2007, and FIFA just gathers dust on my shelf. Once you've upgraded your option file, there is no reason whatsoever not to play the better game. It's true, I've been playing Winning Eleven since 1998 with my ol' PS1 system, and there is no sport game as good as this one (NBA 2k series is close second). A friend of mine has ONLY Winning Eleven games for his PS2.
Its graphic might not be as smooth as Fifa , but its gameplay and its smart use of controller is light years ahead Fifa. One more thing, if you can't wait for the US version to come out, you might want to try the Japanese version of Winning Eleven. The Japanese commentary itself is quite colorful. i definitely agree with you on WE Pro Evo 07 isn't the prettiest but it sure beats FIFA gameplay. FIFA's AI at times was so pathetic and after maybe 4 seasons and making a club to your liking you could bombard a "world class" opponent with 7 goals or so. I do like the abundance of teams and players on there with their real names and I kind of miss the manager decisions like sponsors, team moral, and all, but here's what just makes WE Pro Evo 07 better to play.
The AI is much better as goals are not so easy to get. The goalie isn't a complete idiot, especially if pressured, and the field players don't stand around picking their nose. Short passing and give and goes work very well and the through pass function work much better. I appreciate that WE doesn't make you have to use the the other analog stick to do "trick" moves like side stepping on the dribble as in FIFA. Also i like how you can train your players in the offseason to really improve where they are weak which makes it fun during the transfer window. Also i think the replay is fun because after a "superstar" retires you can pick him up 1yr later which is always fun to get them young, train them and rampage through a tough season. The review completly misses the point of the Winning Eleven series.
that is game play + master league mode. this game shines in master league mode. Where you play season after season, trading, buying and selling players to make your best team. Like Chelsea does. The biggest draw is, when you think you have a good team, then you take your memory card over to a buddies house and play master league team vs master league team. It''s very satisfying to gauge your progress versus a buddy. Changing players and tactics to over come his tactics. And it keeps lifetime bragging rights stats. this game is 110% fun against the computer or live on a buddy. As far as on line play...it is horrid. the kids you play against don't play soccer tactics....the just give the ball to henry and let him dribble through everyone. because lag is so bad...it works....on line play is worthless. scott in St. louis...35 Is this supposed to be a review of Pro Evo or a comparision/slant towards FIFA? FIFA is mentioned so much in this review while you hardly ever hear mentions of non-EA sports games in the other reviews posted here. Weird.
how does it compare to the football manager/worldwide soccer manager series from sports interactive?
Wow, that was the lamest video game review ever. Maybe ESPN could find someone who works for one of the numerous video game sites who is also a footy fan to review the game?
The review is simplistic but accurate not as pretty as FIFA but 10X the quality of football. the problem with Pro Evo is that eventually, Fifa (being that they are the bigger name, are with EA, and have all the liscencing deals) will have completely stolen the gameplay (as they seem to progress towards doing every year...EA gets closer and closer every fifa game they put out to having similar gameplay to ProEvo) from pro evo. EA will eventually dominate soccer video games(hopefully by FIFA 08) just the way it does with every other sporting type video game. EA will put out a Fifa (once again...hopefully by FIFA 08) game which will have similar if not better gameplay to Pro Evo but superior aesthetic value(graphics), which it has always and will continue to always have over ProEvo.....and eventually EA will blow proevo away and the proevo franchise will be no more.
I completely agree witht the review. FIFA is the gorgeous girlwith fake breasts, PES is the not so pretty girl that knows you the best, and you end up having your children with
Winning Eleven is by far the best soccer game on any console, i am addicted to this game and i wonder whats next on the ps3?!
EA fifa game is not even close to be the best soccer video game... i think fifa is for americans and winning eleven is for europeans.
The difference between the PES Series and the FIFA Series is simple: PES is committed to concentrate efforts on fun and football simulation; FIFA is committed to concentrate efforts in looks and licenses. If you like the game, PES is incomparably better; if you like the rest, FIFA is better. It must be noted that PES can be updated to have real teams, kits and licenses - therefore making the choice a no-brainer: PES is WAY better and, as far as I'm concerned, only kids who know nothing about football or haven't had any - I mean, any AT ALL - field experience actually prefer FIFA. If you want Henry to play like Henry, go PES; if you want him to look like Henry, and play like... well, nobody, go FIFA.
Let's put it another way: my brother hates videogames; he doesn't play them, he doesn't know anything about them, he doesn't care about them. But he owns a PS2 just so he can play PES (Winning Eleven, actually), on various different versions, because football's something he likes. Videogames, to him, mean the same as Winning Eleven - and he's a tough guy to beat... Where I come from there isn't a single soul committed to a FIFA game. Quite the opposite: people enjoy playnig PES and noting, all the time, that a) hey! this play was just like that one that real player did the other day; and b) heck!, this game is soooooooo much better than Fifa...! |
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