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10/30/2006 02:39:00 PM

Is Brady Overrated?

Brady
Tom Brady has won two Super Bowl MVPs. But what has he done lately?
Damian Strohmeyer/SI

Sports Illustrated's player poll on the most overrated player in the NFL has touched off controversy around the country -- especially in Dallas and Chicago. Terrell Owens topped the poll of 361 players, and Brian Urlacher was second. Ray Lewis, Michael Vick, Eli Manning, Keyshawn Johnson and Peyton Manning round out the top seven.

I would add Tom Brady to the list.

If the Patriots hadn't drafted Brady, there's no way he'd be compared to Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas. Would Brady be a Pro Bowler? Probably; he obviously has a ton of talent. But his elevated status has a lot to do with the incredible Patriots system. It's no mistake that the Patriots ran out as a team before they beat the Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI. If ever there was a whole bigger than its parts, it's this team.

Nevertheless, the world has anointed Brady the unquestioned King of the NFL.

I have always thought people overrate players who win championships in every sport. If Derek Jeter is the greatest shortstop of his era because of his rings, does that make Luis Sojo the top second baseman? Same goes for the Patriots. Is Matt Light the greatest tackle of the 2000s because New England won three Super Bowls?

Before you angrily respond, remember that this is about perception. I'm not saying Brady isn't a great quarterback. I'm saying the hype has gone too far.

With that, my pick for tonight: Brady leads the Pats to a hard-fought 21-19 win over a revved-up Vikings squad. Hey, I said he's overrated. I didn't say I was betting against him in a close game.

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Comments:

Posted: 3:00 PM   by Ben Burkhardt
C'mon man. Belichik was run out of Cleveland, and coming off of a 5-11 season when Brady took over. This guy is just a winner. I would say that if Brady hadn't come along, New England would have exactly zero rings this decade.
Posted: 3:01 PM   by Anonymous
Remember that Brady has done all this without a bona fide receiving star. Even Montana had Rice. Unitas had Berry. Brady has/had who?
Posted: 3:02 PM   by Anonymous
Forget Tom Brady, the most overrated QB is Ben Roethlisberger. What has he PERSONALLY accomplished, other than get injured over and over again? He was lucky to be on a team good enough to win a Super Bowl despite Big Ben's best efforts to lose it for them (9/21, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions).
Posted: 3:03 PM   by Anonymous
Over rated? By who's standard? Yours? Look at it this way, other than Joe Montana, who would you want running your offense, down 4 points, 80 yards from paydirt, with less than 2 minutes left in the game? I thought so.....
Posted: 3:09 PM   by Anonymous
I wouldn't say Brady is the King of Football, but he certainly isn't as overrated as Ben Roethlisberger is. If I were adding to that list, that's who I'd add. Brady has been consistent and accomplished no matter what the talent level surrounding him is. In times of adversity he clearly can handle added responsibility. Remove a few key components from the Steelers and Big Ben lets the Andrew Walter Raiders beat them.

How'd he finish the Super Bowl last year? Qb rating of 21 or something?
Posted: 3:17 PM   by Anonymous
So let me get this straight... the NFL players, when polled, believe that Manning is overrated while Brady is not. The public crowns Brady as a hero, his name uttered in the same breath as Johnny U. and/or Montana, as a direct result of his play on the field and of his football related contributions off of it (i.e. signing for less than he is "worth" to ensure that his team can continue to sign players). Brady continues to "just" win football games, regardless of who he has at the "talent" positions and without questioning his boss, mentor, and coach and is the hardest worker on the Patriots team (first in, last to leave type stuff)... what are you talking about?

What DOES make a great football player if not Tom Brady?
Posted: 3:19 PM   by Chris Brownlee
Brady is not over-rated, if you want say Brady is, fine. But you would also need to admit that Troy Aikman, Joe Montana,Steve Young and Peyton Manning were/are over-rated in their time as well. They got to play with Michael Irvin and Emmit Smith, Jerry Rice and Terrell Owens, and lets not forget Edgerrin James, Harrison, and Wayne. I agree, the Patriots are a team, but who did Brady have to throw to or run the ball for him, Givens and Branch? They've really done alot for the Titans and the Seahawks, oh wait, Branch has done okay. I'm just saying pick out how many hall of fame level players Brady has gotten to play with. Richard Seymour, and possiby Vinatieri. All I know with a bunch of replacements Brady has the Patriots at 5-1.
Posted: 3:20 PM   by Anonymous
All you need to know is this: Look at the glasses the a-hole who wrote this is wearing. What kind of judgment do you have to posess to look like that in a photo that literally millions of people will see? That sufficiently undermines his credibility to me!

Tom Brady has consistently lead the league in passing yards, TDS and WINS since he has been in the league. Yeah sure he doesnt pad his stats by throwing for 5 TDS against Tennessee and Houston 4 times a year, but is that really how we want to define greatness? He has taken average offensive skill position players and made the Pats a year in year out Super Bowl Contender and he comes through in almost every tough spot and big game. He has been near the top of the NFL statistically for hte past 5 years. Brady is the best QB in the league in this poindexter needs to smarten up!

Please dont even try to argue against me as it has been FIVE YEARS NOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR. HES THE BEST JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Posted: 3:25 PM   by Anonymous
Yeah, he's overrated. We need more guys who can throw for 300 yards a game and crumble when it matters. That's what football is about. It's about flash and big huge numbers. I'm sure Brady would rather be wearing a mustache and making commercials during the Super Bowl but I'm afraid he'll never be that flashy. New England will have to settle for their boring quarterback who only seems to be on fire when it means everything.
Posted: 3:27 PM   by Anonymous
Right position, wrong player. Brett Favre is easily the most overrated. He'll get the all-time interception record (only 17 to go). The media will never mention that stat though because they are in love with him.
Posted: 3:30 PM   by Justin
Calling Brady overrated because of the quality of his team and his system, and refusing to do so with the players you are saying he doesn't match up to, is a prime example of a flawed arguement. Would Joe Montana be "Joe Montana" if he played for the Oilers? Of course not. His lasting legacy was made by his team as well as by himself.
If anything, the fact that Brady has played on such nameless teams and still done so much should add to his grandeur. He has never had a stud WR or, until recently, a stud RB, and yet he has led the league in TDs (2002), yards (2005) and has three Super Bowl rings at age 29. To discredit him because of his coach and system is to ignore the fact that he is the main reason the coach and system are so respected. The same system didn't work too well for Bledsoe or for any Cleveland Brown you care to name.
Posted: 3:30 PM   by Anonymous
C'mon man,, Brady had the best passing year last year!!
Posted: 3:30 PM   by Mike-n-Iowa
As far as the non-sense-comments made by "piers"...Please...Urlacher overrated??? must be all the boneheads from the rest of the league...Can we all say "Sour Grapes"...Wheres the kleenex?
Posted: 3:33 PM   by Anonymous
brady has done more than any other QB during this century, and with less talent as far as wide recievers and running backs are concerned, he may be a product of the system, but didnt montana benefit from having great teams around him also?
Posted: 3:33 PM   by Anonymous
How can Brady be overrated - all that he has done is produced results. Brady is low key in public, yet an effective team leader. Leadership ability cannot ever be overrated.
Posted: 3:34 PM   by Anonymous
I think somebody drafted Tom Brady for his fantasy team and now he's a bit upset.

No, seriously. If Tom Brady's overrated, so's Montana. It's that simple. Perloff talks a lot about the system in NE contributing to Brady's success. But there have been plenty of vaunted systems that don't breed winners. The late, great George Plimpton once wrote a book caled the X-factor, which sets out to describe that "special something" few athletes possess which others do not. I would argue that the X-factor can't be overrated, and that Brady -- who seems to have it in spades -- can't be labeled as overrated either.
Posted: 3:35 PM   by Anonymous
An interesting point...I somewhat agree that team is first and no individual can do it alone. Is Montana, well Montana, without Rice, Craig, lineman, etc? Probably not. A couple of points for Brady though: he has succeeded with changing personnel - one year no running game, this year poor receivers...also, he has led some pretty successful drives in the 4th quarters of Super Bowls. One can't measure much better than at that point.
Posted: 3:39 PM   by JPF
Are you trying to say that the Patriots win three Super Bowls with Drew Bledsoe under center? If this is the logic that you are using then I would say the Peyton Manning is the most overrated player, all that talent and no championships to show for it.
Posted: 3:39 PM   by ken
Biggest crock ever written. Are you a Jets fan? Dolphin fan? Sounds to me like you have no idea what you are talking about, quit your day job and try american idol
Posted: 3:50 PM   by Anonymous
A lot of people thought Bill Russell was over rated too... Some players prove with statistics... some prove with championships. Its easy for the simple minded national journalist to understand Stats but they cant put their mind around other things… namely, the greatness of a player. I feel bad for you.
Posted: 3:51 PM   by Anonymous
Tom Brady is over-rated but not by alot. the only reaso he won thoese super bowls was cuz of a team effort. His kicker was just GREAT. and they won cuz of the kicker. Yeah he makes great game wining drives and plays but his time is up. as for tonights game the vikes will win. the pats do two thing. 1. Run 2. short pass. the vikes have a killer D. and a great Short pass D. Watch the LB to have a great game.
Posted: 3:51 PM   by Anonymous
Tom Brady is over-rated but not by alot. the only reaso he won thoese super bowls was cuz of a team effort. His kicker was just GREAT. and they won cuz of the kicker. Yeah he makes great game wining drives and plays but his time is up. as for tonights game the vikes will win. the pats do two thing. 1. Run 2. short pass. the vikes have a killer D. and a great Short pass D. Watch the LB to have a great game.
Posted: 3:52 PM   by Anonymous
A lot of people thought Bill Russell was over rated too... Some players prove with statistics... some prove with championships. Its easy for the simple minded national journalist to understand Stats but they cant put their mind around other things… namely, the greatness of a player. I feel bad for you.
Posted: 3:56 PM   by Anonymous
Thank you Tom for being over-rated and thank you for bringing us the 3 SuperBowl rings to a championship starved region!
Posted: 3:57 PM   by Anonymous
how is Brady rated? Sportwriters and fans all agree that either Brady or Manning have been (and still are) the top two qbs in the league. what's wrong with this opinion? is there a 3rd QB that is clearly better but doesn't get his due because all the hype is on Brady?

A quick recap to remind you:

2001: 2nd year backup steps in after bledsoe goes down and wins games by not turning the ball over and relying on a strong running game. Nobody claimed Brady was the best that year, however the talks of "most underrated player" start.

2002: Antoine Smith starts to slow down, injuries pile up and the offense needs to rely on the pass. Brady quietly leads the league in TDs and throws for 3,000+ yds. No marquee recievers on the team. "most underrated qb" picks up speed.

2003: Still without a running game, the patriots rely mostly on short passes with the occasional shot deep. Patriots outgun all the top dogs that year including the co-mvps manning and mcnair, not to mention mcnabb and finally another game winning td drive to win the superbowl. People start to notice he is up their with the top qbs in the league. "most underrated qb" becomes over-used and annoying.

2004: After two years, Pats finally get a running game, lifting the load off of Brady. Patriots outgun everyone, including manning and mcnabb. Another superb superbowl performance and Brady is no longer "underrated". The Manning vs. Brady debate reaches full fervor.

2005: Injuries destroy the defense and the running game. Brady picks up the load (again) and throws for over 4,000 yds. Despite having a terrible team game, NE almost pulls out a victory in the Denver playoff game. People are shocked Brady actually lost in a playoff game. Manning's best team ever gets beaten by the Steelers two weeks later. Brady vs. Manning continues.

2006: Brady loses all but one WR from the previous year (none of which are considered even in the top 10 in the league). The patriots rely more on the running game. suddenly Brady is overrated?
Posted: 3:59 PM   by Anonymous
I would say you would have to consider all the BS surrounding Favre who most say suffered from not having any real WRs. Brady suffered from no real RB until CD came along and no real star WRs either. Accuracy and decision making are hallmarks of a QB. Pin the tag on Roethlisberger and his 22 QB rating during the Super Bowl when it mattered most.
Posted: 3:59 PM   by Anonymous
Brady Overrated? Maybe. Admittingly he has been hyped to stratospheric levels. But I'd say there are so many other Quarterbacks in this league who are overhyped -- and deserve the hype *less* -- that picking on Brady's credibility is a bit ludicrous. Donovan McNabb, Carson Palmer, and both Mannings all tend to be mentioned more as great QBs (because of their insanely high fantasy numbers in regular season games,) but all have considerably less to show for their efforts than Brady and none will ever accomplish what Brady already has. As for the quality of a great team or a great coaching staff lifting the performance of a mediocre QB, I'd say that much better describes Roethlisberger and the 2005-2006 Steelers.
Posted: 4:01 PM   by Anonymous
Your position that all members of a winning team are not by default all-stars is well made. Problem is, Brady is obviously very talented. The coach Brady works with is talented. And the guys around Brady, while not necessarily all-stars, are solid and dependable and selfless. We may never know how successful Tom Brady would be outside of all of the success around him. He may have a tough time on the 2006 Cadinals team. I bet P Manning would too. Often in life, the most talented of people experience success if they are in the right place at the right time. Brady was blessed with talent, as was drafted by the right team at the right time.
Posted: 4:15 PM   by Anonymous
Montana had two superbowl rings before rice showed up.
Posted: 4:15 PM   by Anonymous
Not even close! Brett Favre is by far the most overrated QB in recent years. He needed to retire a few years ago. As it is, he just continues to throw interceptions and make bad decisions. But if he did retire then John Madden wouldn't have anyone to pray to!! Favre could throw six interceptions, and madden would say "he's a gun slinger, a fierce competitor trying to make something happen"!! you could rank Michael Vick up there too!
Posted: 4:15 PM   by Anonymous
I think that some of your points are valid,however what can determine a Great player to a good
player is how they perform under pressure (playoffs,championships,overtime)
If you look at Brady's stats in those situations compared to Manning's your looking at the difference between the two.
Posted: 4:19 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is not overrated.

Would any other quarterback have led the Patriots to 3 Super Bowls in 5 years, and 21 wins in a row in that stretch? With a team with such little talent around him like Brady has? I doubt it.

And there's no such thing as a "system" quarterback. Every quarterback has a system tailored to their strengths. Even the great Peyton Manning. I guess he's a system QB too.
Posted: 4:21 PM   by Anonymous
The irony of this column is that he's looking for agreement from the masses and NO ONE IS WILLING TO DO IT. You want proof that Montana was a product of the system? How'd that Kansas City stint go for him? I will say that the one thing Brady has always had going for him over Peyton has been consistently good defenses, but you can't tell me Peyton in Brady's shoes would have three rings. He's a great quarterback, he's a great player, he's a great athlete, but he'll never be half the legend Brady is.
Overrated? I thought champions were measured by results, and not numbers. Fans in New England take pride in the fact that their Star quarterback does not want to be recognized as the "King of the Football World", but would rather just WIN. End of Discussion
Posted: 4:29 PM   by Anonymous
No way Brady is overrated...or Roethlisberger for that matter. He carried the Steelers to the SB last year and won it in his 2nd year!

Everyone loves to hate on him because his numbers don't match up to Brady or Manning, but he has had just as big of an impact. The Steelers have basically remained the same level of team but needed a QB.

He struggled in the playoffs his first year, then the SB his next year...so, if he didn't have such a horrible offseason, you could assume he'd then struggle in the Pro Bowl.
Posted: 4:30 PM   by Anonymous
I do believe Luis Soho was the best second baseman of his era. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise. Clutch is clutch.
Posted: 4:32 PM   by Anonymous
Brady a system QB? What system would that be exactly? The system that barely has given him capable receivers to throw the ball too. Duh!

You want a system QB? See Peyton Manning, a QB who has stud receivers to throw the ball too and who has had them for as long as he's been playing. Oh, and the exact same offensive system with which to operate in for all these years. Now that's a system.
Posted: 4:34 PM   by Anonymous
I think you are overrated as a column writer....Brady and Manning overated...you just don't get it.
Posted: 4:35 PM   by Anonymous
To the poster that said the Patriots won that Super Bowl because "their kicker was GREAT" and not because of Brady:

How did that GREAT kicker do in Super Bowl 38? (Answer: One missed FG and one blocked. Yeah, he's GREAT all right.) Who led the Patriots down the field so that GREAT kicker can get in position to kick those field goals? (Answer: the "overrated" Brady).

His time is up? Last I checked his team is 5-1.
Posted: 4:35 PM   by Dan
"Tom Brady has won two Super Bowl MVPs. But what has he done lately?"

Lead his team to a 5-1 start and a commanding lead in the division?

What do you want the guy to do? Win SB MVP EVERY year?
Posted: 4:37 PM   by Anonymous
Put Brady in Houston and he'd do just as well as David Carr.
Posted: 4:38 PM   by Anonymous
I have been saying Tom Brady is over rated for 5 years now, 'bout time somebody else thinks so!
Posted: 4:38 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is the best QB in the NFL. To even open a discussion is ridiculous. Sure Poutin' Peyton puts up better numbers, but when things get tough he throws a tantrum. He's the Dan Marino of his generation. He looks great when things are going great and horrible when things are going bad.

Brady, on the other hand, has won three Super Bowls with wide receivers and running backs who couldn't even start for the Colts. And when the pressure is on, that's when Brady is his best. I've never seen the guy look flustered. He's so much in control back there he almost looks bored. To compare him to Jeter is ludicrous. Quarterback is the most difficult and important position in any sport. Jeter is the overrated one here.
Posted: 4:39 PM   by Brady12
Utterly ridiculous comments. Brady made the system more than the system making him. I cant believe you have the stones to say this. Combining championships with talent DOES elevate a players stature and should. The Luis Sojo comment was just plain stupid.
Posted: 4:40 PM   by Anonymous
I agree with you, Tom Brady is overrated. Not because he isn't that good, but because the bar has been set so impossiby high for him. The same problem exists with Peyton Manning. They are both treated like gods amoung mice every time they step onto the field. So, even though they are both really, really good, they are both overrated.
Posted: 4:40 PM   by JM Walker
Look, I can't stand the Pats, and I've always been annoyed by Brady's aw-shucks demeanor, but have you been paying attention for the last five years? Come on, man. Overrated? Not in the games I've watched.
Posted: 4:40 PM   by Anonymous
I agree wholeheartedly. I have been saying Brady is over rated for about 4 years now. It is time for New Englanders to get off his jock.

It is funny how all of a sudden people forget Bledsoe won the games to put the pats IN the superbowl in the first place.

Wake up. Brady has had one of the best o-lines in football his entire career and the Defense is superb, until this season.

Coaching and a great D win football games. I don't care about his stats. Last time I checked the only stat that mattered was the turnovers. Well, except for the Bears.
Posted: 4:40 PM   by Anonymous
In response to who I would rather have 80 yards from a win with two minutes to go, the answer is simple: Peyton Manning. That was easy. As for the best second baseman, definitely not Chucky-can't-get-it-to-first-knobbs-for-hands
Posted: 4:40 PM   by Anonymous
What's his passer rating again? As of today that is.
Posted: 4:40 PM   by Anonymous
I think Perloff meant that he was ticked off by the hype of some players. Anyway, who is the player you would want on the feild in the Super Bowl, you're down one score, with 2:07 to go? If anything, Brady is underrated. He had to fight for a starting job with wonder boy Drew Henson at Michigan. Then he got drafted in the sixth round. Nobody siad boo about the guy until he came in for Bledsoe and the Patriots started winning.
Posted: 4:47 PM   by Anonymous
I wholeheartedly agree. He is in a great system that allows him to succeed. They have had great defenses, special teams, and offenses every year he's been there. Look at how many of the assistant coaches there have gone on to become head coaches elsewhere. On another team he'd be good, but not great.
Posted: 4:48 PM   by Dave Snave
Your a screwball!!! This is the stupidest article ever, for one...the two comments before mine make perfect points, before Brady took the reigns for Belichik, he was coming off a 5-11 season. And the second point, who has Brady had? Not only does he have to deal with CONSTANT change, losing offensive weapons, key players, but he has had no superstar accomplice on offense to help him lead the charge. No matter what offensive support you put around Brady, he is going to make it happen. This year is a great example, they lose Deion Branch, panic breaks out in New England, could they have gone too far in their hard nosed style of business?! Even Brady himself admits to being highly disgruntled by the loss, but what does Brady due to respond, he adapts to his new weapons in Chad Jackson and Doug Gabriel and wins. The mystique about Brady is that his reputation as the NFL's best Quarterback trancends through all the media hoopla and statistics, Brady flat out wins. THAT is what makes Brady the NFL's best quarterback and puts him ahead of all the others. Overrated? Hell no.
Posted: 4:51 PM   by Anonymous
It is funny how all of a sudden people forget Bledsoe won the games to put the pats IN the superbowl in the first place.
Posted: 4:54 PM   by Anonymous
Your an idiot. Thats all I have to say. Your just a huge idiot.
Posted: 4:59 PM   by Anonymous
I am a Steelers fan and the notion the Tom Brady is overrated is ludicrous. The man has ice water in his veins and is nothing but a winner, he proves it year in and out.
Posted: 5:00 PM   by Anonymous
In defense of Roethlisberger...that team was going nowhere with Tommy Maddox at QB..Big Ben...Heath Miller..difference makers.
Posted: 5:01 PM   by Anonymous
why does any discussion of brady always turn into bashing of peyton manning...sure the guy hasnt won the big game in his career but in college florida was always the better team when they faced off..in the pros when has he had a defense he could count on like brady does, manning has to score nearly every time down the field to give his team a chance, the broncos game was a perfect example of that and what do you know he brought his team back and won...brady may be a little overrated in the same way jeter is but that does not diminish their accomplishments brady is still one of the top 2 qbs in the league far and away
Posted: 5:01 PM   by joec
You are sick. What if John Elway played in New Orleans, or Montana in Tampa Bay? A qb, no matter who he is, is only as good as those around him. Brady is a stud, a sure-fire Hall-of-Famer who has two Super Bowl MVP trophies. He is the real deal.
Posted: 5:01 PM   by Anonymous
Overrated? By what measure? His stats? His record? He certainly doesn't get the ridiculous degree of media exposure that a certain idiot whose initials are T.O. gets. I think it's incredible that this guy came in and did such an incredible job taking over and leading his team to victory in two Superbowls. He's a leader and he has the skills to go with it.
Posted: 5:02 PM   by Anonymous
People -- Look at that list of players doesnt it just "seem" to include the upper echelon of the players for their positions
Whoever is doing these polls perhaps they are simply jealous of the talent these players have
Posted: 5:02 PM   by Anonymous
Interesting points. But the "hype for Tom Brady has gone too far." Are you serious? All I've been reading about since the pre-season is Peyton Manning this, Peyton Manning that, "the greatest, most-perfect quarterback of all time." Just today Peter King & Don Banks wrote exhaustive columns about how amazing & God-like Peyton is. Even though it was a very close game with a very inconsistent team until the last two minutes. And the Titans came this close to beating the Colts. The Titans. But after that game; the press was unanimous "Peyton is awesome & should receive a lifetime achievement award in ruling." Peyton is the overrated one. Peyton cannot play in a big game situation. And he will go down in history as the best QB to always choke in playoffs & never win a Super Bowl. Tom Brady already has three of those rings. That's not overrated.
Posted: 5:05 PM   by Anonymous
Agreed Brady is blowing it this year... Urlacher is probably the MVP of the Bears team if not the entire NFC. Anyone labeling him over rated has not seen him play week in and out.
Posted: 5:06 PM   by Anonymous
Most overrated, not Brady or Favre but Big Ben and Steve McNair. End of discussion!
Posted: 5:08 PM   by Josh
I think it may be useful to make a simple Brady-Manning distinction. Manning is well on his way to being the greatest regular season quarterback in football history, while Brady is just the best quarterback in the league. If Manning wins 2 SBs in the next 3-5 years, I reconsider.

I am of the mind that Brady is not overrated at all. He's considered one of the 3-4 most valuable players in football and is just that. He is also one of those players who reminds us how utterly problematic it is to rely on statistics (excluding wins here) as a determination of a player's value.

One thing that's been often overlooked in discussion of the Pats is the year after they beat the Rams in the SB, the year they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. Everything, absolutely everything had gone wrong that year. They had tons of injuries, couldn't stop anyone on the ground (notice the ensuing 1st rounders on DLinemen) and couldn't run the ball themselves. The season had 5-11 written all over it. Belichick coached great and Brady just willed the team to 9 wins. It set the tone for the next year and established him even further as a guy who gets the most out of himself and his team.
Posted: 5:09 PM   by Anonymous
Who would you rather have as your QB? You asked if Brady would have been as successful on another team. You can ask that about any one. Besides, everyone knocks the Patriots for not having enough 'superstars" on their team. Make up your mind.
Posted: 5:09 PM   by Anonymous
I'd hate to over-analyze a question like "who is the best qb?" because there are way too many variables. O-line, running game, team defense...etc. There are way too many elements and theoretically switching quarterbacks (Brady in the Colts/ Peyton with the Pats)is unrealistic. That said the only way we can measure a quarterback is by his play on 3rd down conversions and other pressure heroics. If he is getting the job done on a consistent basis he is good. If he is inconsistent he is average or worse. Even constantly not screwing up makes for a good quarterback but not a winning team. Brady has a great defense and special teams play from his team that helps him win. Why should that detract from his consistency? He is one of the best. As for the best, think who you would draft if you had a crap team. Any opinions?
Posted: 5:10 PM   by Anonymous
I agree. You also have to wonder if Joe Montana would have been just another Archie Manning on another team, or if Archie Manning would have been a superstar on a different team. Same with Terry Bradshaw and all the rest. There have been a ton of talented players stuck on the wrong team, and others with maybe even less talent on better teams, and they come out as stars. It just happens to be who is in the right place at the right time. Nothing more, nothing less, and it is only a stupid game. People tend to forget that the world would still go on without all these millionaires running around on a Sunday afternoon with networks gushing over them so that the networks can make money.
Posted: 5:10 PM   by Anonymous
Your logic pains me. Agreed that over time, systems matter and can help make a very good player great. But do you really think the system helps in the moments when a QB's career is defined? Like final Super Bowl drives that start with 1:21 left on the clock and a single timeout v. the greatest show on turf? Or during a 4th quarter aerial circus two years later featuring several clutch 3rd-down passes? Or when trailing in the 2nd half against a Jim Johnson defense hungry for sacks? Here's a hint, stupid: No. Success in those situation takes superior skill, cool and guts -- which Brady has demonstrated time and again and Manning will need to demonstrate at least once before he measures up.
Posted: 5:12 PM   by Anonymous
Most quarterbacks are overrated. In Manning's case he's the lynchpin of the offense since he calls the plays, but Brady?

Defense wins championships, and the Pats D (6th, 1st, and 2nd in pts. allowed) won those three championships. Slowing down the Greatest Show on Turf is the difference between Brady's field goal drive being the stuff of legend and a pathetic attempt to decrease the margin of defeat.

When he had a quality defense, Manning made the Brady drive against the Steelers thanks to an improbable fumble (with a game saving tackle by Roethlisberger that people seem to forget). Vanderjagt missed, whereas Vinatieri doesn't.

So to all those who put faith in rings, is Dilfer or Rypien better than Dan Marino? Is Jim Plunkett (2 rings) better than Joe Namath (one)? Is Brady better than Elway?
Posted: 5:12 PM   by Anonymous
It looks like most people here refuse to admit the simple truth. Any good quarterback is going to be over rated to some extent. Yes, Payton is over rated, but he is good, same with Eli, McNabb, Brady, Farve, etc. Get over it, it isn't an attack on him, it is a statement, and opinion; accept it or not don't get all pissy over it. And for you short sited people who say Brady won the superbowls for the Pats, look at their defense they dominated just about everyone they played. Give the team credit not just one person.
Posted: 5:13 PM   by Anonymous
i find it kind of ironic; you answered your own question in the first few sentences. comparing tom brady to joe montana, then indicating brady's success had as much to do with patriots system as he own talent. if there ever was a qb who was more a product of a system (the west coast offense), it was montana.
Posted: 5:13 PM   by Anonymous
Come on...Brady was annointed right after his first Superbowl. Everyone fell in love with him. I agree...the system he was raised in deserves most of the credit. Not to mention the O-line and the decent run game he relies on to divert some of the attention.
Posted: 5:13 PM   by Anonymous
As far as a clutch Qb, there is non-better than Brady. He is exactly what every team wants at the position. He often gets compaired to Montana, and I think that is a very fair compairison. Someone who is an enigma is Peyton Manning. I hate to put him down because as far as numbers go he has it. I would like to see him not save his worst performance of the season for the playoffs like he always does. Truely overated is most likely Big Ben.
Posted: 5:13 PM   by Anonymous
"Overrated" is the most pointless criticism I can think of. There is no absolute scale involved, is there? If a quarterback (in this case, but we could just as well be talking about a sports car or a hamburger)is worth two cents, and the public says, "He's worth three", he's overrated. If he's worth 10 million bucks and the public says "He's worth 10 million and one", then he's overrated.

Most overrated? Who cares? Brady, by any measurable standard, is a really, really, really good quarterback. And you're complaint is "Ah, but people are claiming he's really, really, really, really good. He's so overrated!" Jeez, get over it, will ya?
Posted: 5:14 PM   by Anonymous
I couldn't agree more. Brady is the Derek Jeter of football. How many screen passes can one guy throw to rack up yards. And his numbers with the exception of last year have not been that impressive. Sadly he will make the Hall of Fame the same way Troy Aikman did even with his pedestrian numbers simply because he was lucky enough to be drafted by a team that has been successful without him being the most important cog. Finally, with a small drop in talent this year he has fallen off the radar as the Pats depends on their running game since Brady can't get it done. Not to mention playing in the worst division in the NFL has helped the past 5yrs.
Posted: 5:14 PM   by Anonymous
Actually, Matt Light is pretty freaking good...
Posted: 5:15 PM   by Anonymous
I think Brady is finally getting his due as the best QB in football. If the system is what wins the games, why were the Pats 5-11 in 2000? The guy is cool under pressure and works incredibly hard to be where he is in the pecking order of great NFL players. I would like to see you take any other QB in football today and give them the receivers that Brady has. I can guarantee you that team wouldn't be 5-1. A system is only as good as the guy who runs it. In this case the system is run by the best QB of this generation.
Posted: 5:15 PM   by TommyN81
This argument would have been valid back in 2002, but after 3 Super Bowl victories, you have to give him at least as much credit as we've given all the Super Bowl MVP quarterback greats of the past. NFL greats are measured by their successes, and Brady has had as much success as anyone else.
Posted: 5:15 PM   by Anonymous
I think the whole "overrated" poll is a bunch of crap. Who defines who is over or under rated. Being from Chicago, I don't agree with the list anyway, but I don't think any current players can be judged in this manner. Let's wait to judge the players when they become eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Posted: 5:15 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is a winner and does what he needs to do to win games, however all his late game heroics ended an field goals granted it isn't his fault they weren't down more but if I need a TD with less than 2 minutes to go I take Montana and then Elway with Brady being a distant 3rd
Posted: 5:16 PM   by Anonymous
Tom Brady has "SuperStar" qualities because he raises the playing efforts of the whole NE Patriots team! Have you ever heard him after a game at a press conference?? He always credits the other players for the victory, and takes the blame when they lose. He is indeed a great QB, but more importantly, a great teammate! For comparison, listen to Drew Bledsoe after a game... "ME, ME, ME, blah, blah, blah!" Tom Brady has earned his place in NFL history as a true champion!!
Posted: 5:16 PM   by Anonymous
It's Bart Starr and Johnny Unitas all over again. Starr clearly had the better team while Unitas was the better QB. Brady plays for a better organization and has a better team. Peyton, while head and shoulders above all other QB's, plays for an organization that refuses to give him a Defense that can go all the way. Dungy likes them small and quick in an NFL world that's big and quick. So when SMASH comes to MOUTH, usually around playoff time, the Colts do their annual foldo. It's no secret to me why neither Polian or Dungy has been able to take a team across the finish line. But if anyone thinks Brady's in the ball park with Peyton Manning, as a QB, guess again. Let's see Brady do what Peyton does with an anchor like defense around his neck.
Posted: 5:16 PM   by Anonymous
To the person who posted "Put Brady in Houston and he'd do just as well as David Carr", you are missing the point. The argument was that the NE system was to credit for Brady's success. The relevant question is "Put ____ in NE during the last 5 years and how would he do?" My guess is very few would succeed when the pressure is on. Brady has and he is overrated? Success is the very yardstick of a rating, so I think you guys must just not like him for extrinsic reasons. Most everyone agrees that his rating is justified, including the NFL players in their poll.
Posted: 5:17 PM   by Anonymous
I would take Brady any day of thew week and twice on Sunday to lead my team. period
Posted: 5:18 PM   by Anonymous
Yes, Tom Brady is way overrated! Everyone forgets the great defenses that led the Patriots to their three Superbowls. The defense is what shut down the amazing Colts offense to get them to their Superbowls. I guarantee that if Peyton Manning had that defense, then he would have multiple superbowl rings as well and maybe more! In the end defense wins championships and that is what led the Patriots to their three Superbowls. The same goes for Big Ben. He didnt lead the Steelers to a Superbowl it was their defense!
Posted: 5:19 PM   by Syed Ashrafulla
Anyone who says Brett Favre is overrated needs to stop insulting this comments section with their comments. Brett Favre is NOT the most overrated QB in the NFL ... his failure is a product of having to continually rear back and fire because his defense has failed him for so many years. Anyone who's watched the last couple of games has noticed something funny ... the Packers are winning. It is because Favre is playing his football, the same way Brady is, the same way Manning is, and the same way the succesful QBs in this league are. Everyone that comments is probably some mid-20s idiot who forgets that Favre is a 3-time MVP, and if he was on the Patriots or any other team "in the race," that team would probably be a one-loss or unbeaten team. No one should EVER question Brett Favre. Also, for anyone who wants to respond by trying to bring up specific instances of games, I said "watch football," not "watch SportsCenter" or "read Peter King's Monday Morning QB and repeat what he says with a few words you learned in kindergarten." I'm not like Madden, but I'm not stupid either.

The most overrated QB in the NFL is Ben Roethlisberger. Anyone who says he "led" his team to the 15-1 record his rookie year and the Super Bowl his sophomore year are dolts. The Steelers did need Ben at QB, but not because of his skills. They needed Ben at QB so that offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt was forced to run the ball and play conservative passes, and for Dick LeBeau's defense to have motivation to play stifling defense the last two years. Many people asked "Should Ben have been #1 overall?" We are finding out that he was picked just about right; Rivers and Little Manning are proving better quarterbacks than Roethlisberger, who is succesfully leading one of the worst feast-to-famine drops in NFL history.
Posted: 5:19 PM   by Anonymous
I know a certain other QB with the initials P.M. has barely been mentioned in your article, Mr. Perloff, but I'm pretty certain that if you're labeling Tom "3 Rings, 2 Super Bowl MVP trophies" Brady as overrated, then you're probably a Peyton Manning apologist. I say this because if Brady is in fact overrated, that probably clears the way for Manning to be considered the best QB in the league. But before you do cast Brady aside and crown Mr. Manning, ask yourself this question: who was better, Marino or Montana?
Posted: 5:21 PM   by Anonymous
All QBs are overrated...Take away the HARD work of their linemen and let's see how GREAT they really are...Please name one QB that won a Superbowl all by themselves...I'm waiting
Posted: 5:23 PM   by Anonymous
Why do people continue to compare Brady and Manning? That is an awful comparison. Look at their records against each other (brady is 6-1) and look at the SBs (Brady has 3 to peyton's zero). Those are facts plain and simple. Of course Brady's TEAM won all those games. But who orchestrated the players and put them in position to win? Brady and Belichick. And as made obvious by other comments, Brady makes Belichick look like a god rather than just the best football coach in the league. Brady is in a class of his own (well maybe with Montana). For some reason, no matter how many games he wins or super bowl trophies he holds up, he'll never be good enough for statheads liek you perloff.
Posted: 5:23 PM   by Anonymous
Oh my God, I think the end of the world may be coming . . . a sportswriter actually admitted that Brady was overrated. All I can say is that it took long enough. Like Andrew said, it's not that Brady isn't very good, it's the fact that he has become infallible in the eyes of some announcers and writers. That is what makes him overrated.
Posted: 5:26 PM   by Anonymous
I agree with the person who made fun of Perloff's glasses. He looks more like a guy who should be playing dungeons and dragons than blaspheming the best QB since Joe Cool.
Posted: 5:27 PM   by Anonymous
No mention of Randy Moss? Oh wow.

He's had an average of two dropped balls per game this season. Totally overrated.
Posted: 5:28 PM   by Anonymous
I say the man has stones for brining this up but it has merit. Brady is a very good QB but I think the rest of the country outside the eastern seaboard are getting sick of hearing about the "PATRIOOOOOTS" OR about the "genius" of Bellichek. They are a good team right now who's front office egos may have gotten in the way of another championship.
Posted: 5:28 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is overrated. It is not so much that he is a product of the system (Montana certainly won games because of the then novelty of the West Coast offense) but that he has played in an era when football was mediocre.(Kurt Warner owns 2 league MVPs for god's sake) Defenses have eclisped offenses in this era. (Trent Dilfer won a SB)
The key is don't turn the ball over and be effecient. Brady is very good at this. He is a winner but he is not a great QB. New Enlanders shoud accept this and then taunt everyone that they have won 3 of 5.
Posted: 5:29 PM   by Anonymous
I hate Tom Brady, especially after he whupped my Eagles in the Super Bowl. But there's no question that he's the best quarterback in football today. All the guy does is win. I mean, the Patriots dynasty was over, right? When they lost Vinatieri, I know I thought it was over. And now, they're 5-1? Are you kidding me? There was a poll online today, something like "What would scare you most if the game was on the line at the end of the first quarter: the Colts offense or the Bears defense?" They should have had another choice: Tom Brady. Plus, he doesn't throw up under pressure like another quarterback that Philly is familar with.
Posted: 5:29 PM   by Anonymous
For the writer above who asked "How did Montana's stint in KC go?".

Um... could have sworn they reached the AFC title game in year 1.
Posted: 5:30 PM   by Anonymous
So all Brady has done with a starless receiver corps over the past 5 years is win 3 Super Bowls and lead the league in passing last season. Give me a break.
Posted: 5:30 PM   by Bobcat
Saying Tom Brady is overrated is like calling pants a useless invention, if your going to talk about an overrated quarter back you have to look no further than Peyton Manning. People call him the best quarterback in the league but has he even come close to winning the superbowl? No, he puts up stats yet can't win, he is the biggest choker of the modern era, he is the next Dan Marino, will put up great stats in the regular season then when games acutally count he will loose it.
Posted: 5:31 PM   by Anonymous
Brady was the beneficiary of a nasty defense... Dilfer won a Super Bowl the same way. He must be better then Manning too!
Posted: 5:32 PM   by Anonymous
I agree wholeheartedly. I have been saying Brady is over rated for about 4 years now. It is time for New Englanders to get off his jock.

***Sooo that would mean you've been saying this since 2002? Jeez, he's only lead his team to 2 Super Bowl titles since. Wow, you really know football.***

It is funny how all of a sudden people forget Bledsoe won the games to put the pats IN the superbowl in the first place.

***Bledsoe was 0-2 that year. But other than that, yeah he won a ton of games for them that year.***

Wake up. Brady has had one of the best o-lines in football his entire career and the Defense is superb, until this season.

***Sure, the Pats O-line is always viewed as one of the best. That must be why they have all those pro-bowlers... well, Damien Woody did make it as a replacement. Oh, and the Pats have the 4th best scoring D this year. So, basically you managed to write a paragraph without actually including a fact. Way to go***

Coaching and a great D win football games. I don't care about his stats. Last time I checked the only stat that mattered was the turnovers. Well, except for the Bears.

***That paragraph doesn't even make sense. Are you on drugs?***
Posted: 5:32 PM   by Anonymous
The Sojo-Jeter comment was silly and you must know it. Same goes fro the Brady-Light comment. Both Jeter and Brady are proven winners AND excellent players. Winning alone is not what matters. It is being a key part of a winning team.
Posted: 5:33 PM   by Anonymous
Give Peyton Manning the defenses that Tom Brady has had and Manning would have 5 Super Bowl rings by now.
Posted: 5:33 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is hardly overrated. The person that is overrated is Ben Rothlisburger. Ben is the person that is should be on the list.
Posted: 5:34 PM   by Anonymous
Ask other NFL players if he's overrated not just armchair quarterbacks like the people here who think he is. Players say it's impossible to get in his head, his passes are perfectly timed (when he knows his receivers), his fakes are very well executed, his reads and audibles are very well researched and thought out. His feet are planted and he takes a hit if necessary. Know why he doesn't put up numbers like Peyton "Happy-Feet" Manning (who IS overrated)? Because when the Pats are leading, they run the ball. That's Bellichick being Bellichick. According to their record the past 5 years, they're up a lot...
When we need Brady to perform, he's always there. ALWAYS. Even during last year's loss. We still would have won that game if we didn't fumble three times in the second half. I wouldn't trust Peyton with my nerf ball in a big situation.
Posted: 5:34 PM   by Anonymous
A couple of comparisons. I would say that Manning is yesterday's Marino. When everything is said and done he will own every record. In today's age of FFL stats are everything. It is even predicated to how the NFL athlete is paid. He is a FFL wet dream.


Concerning Brady, I beleive him to be in his own league. He is one of the master's of the endgame which has been lost in the world of rotisserrie fantasy football leagues. This may change a bit without his wingman(Vinateri), but you get the picture.

With Brady there are no excuses just results.
Posted: 5:36 PM   by Anonymous
you are a complete idiot. Brady has a career winning percentage of 76% (best of any QB in the superbowl era). He is the N fL's all-time leader in overtime wins without a defeat (7-0 to be exact). He has orchestrated 21 game winning drives to break a tie or take the lead in the 4th quarter (5 of those in the post-season). He has a 9-1 playoff record with 3 superbowls and 2 superbowl mvp's. Not bad fr a 6th round draft pick. Why don't you go write about Nascar? You obviously don't know dick about football.
Posted: 5:36 PM   by Anonymous
There's a big difference in "all he does is win" and "doing enough so your team doesn't lose". Most quarterbacks in the NFL don't have that luxury.
Posted: 5:37 PM   by Anonymous
Every year, this same question emerges. Peyton Manning (Mr. October) puts on an eye popping display...and everyone thinks that Peyton Manning is the greatest of all time.

But, the only way he can be the greatest of all time is if you dismiss his chief rival (Tom Brady) as being overrated.

Here are the real stats:

Since 2001, Peyton Manning is 64-30; Tom Brady is 73-21...these are both great marks.

In the playoffs, Peyton Manning is 3-4; Tom Brady is 10-1.

The bottom line is that they are both great quarterbacks (both much better than that overhyped Brett Favre, by the way).

But, Brady has won when it matters the most.

Overrated? I think not!
Posted: 5:37 PM   by Anonymous
I agree, Brady is overrated. He is a good quarterback, but was not the reason the Patriots won 3 superbowls. That would be the defense who won those superbowls, as was the case last year with Big Ben and the Steelers.

The best qb in the league is Peyton Manning, bar none. Give him a top 10 defense and he'll win the Super Bowl every year!
Posted: 5:48 PM   by Anonymous
Are you on drugs? Tom Brady is the best QB in the league period. Peyton manning can rack up all the stats he wants, his fingers are bare. Brady has three and he's only getting started. This writer should go back to working at the Weekly Reader.

To say Brady is overrated is like saying Juan Pierre is a power hitter.
Posted: 6:12 PM   by Anonymous
Brady is good, but overrated. He is the beneficiary of a great system. Ever notice how recievers are always open? Credit Brady for going through his reads quickly, but the O-line gives him time and the play calling always yields an open receiver or two. The defense always keeps the team in the game, and special teams play is solid year after year. Remember, both Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have won a champtionship in the past six years. Was it because of the team or the players?
Posted: 6:14 PM   by Anonymous
It probably is true that Elway, Marino, Manning are better pure passers than Brady will ever be. But quarterbacking is all about handling pressure, and nobody is better than this guy at this position.
Posted: 6:17 PM   by Anonymous
You people need lives. To get this upset over one guy's opinion is ridiculous. And hilarious.
Posted: 6:17 PM   by Anonymous
Forget about Brady. This blurb about Peyton Manning making the Top 7 has me a bit confused. Pull Manning out of the Colts lineup and the Colts are 2-5....if they're lucky. No way Manning is overrated. He's the best QB the NFL has right now.
Posted: 6:17 PM   by Anonymous
Every quarterback in the NFL is overrated!
Posted: 6:21 PM   by Anonymous
Who would you want other than Montana and Brady with 2 minutes on the clock and down four? I don't know, maybe the guy who led his team from behind in those situations more than anybody else, Mr. John Elway. And talking about somebody who won with lackluster talent around him on offense (specifically early in his career, c'mon the Three Amigos, Sammy Winder, Clarence Kay). If Brady can take the Pats to the Super Bowl this year with the team around him, it would be like Elway leading the Broncos to all those Super Bowls in the 80's.
Posted: 6:21 PM   by Anonymous
Ofcourse Brady is Overrated .. He won all the Super Bowls with the supporting cast they had .. And without them we know where they land
Posted: 6:22 PM   by Anonymous
Tom Brady is the most overrated QB ever in the NFL. I blame the Media for this though, you have people on ESPN comparing him to Montana... HA! Never. Manning is the best QB over the past 5 years hands down. Look at the poise he has against the Broncos last week. The man is just ice cold. Brady is just a pretty boy who is asked to take 3-5 step drops and throw 5-10 yard slants. When teams blitz him, and make him have to make decisions, Brady crumbles. Brady was in the right place at the right time. Bill is the best coach in the NFL. All I have to say is if I had that great of an O line, and only had to hold the ball for 3 seconds per snap... I would have just as good of numbers as Brady!
Posted: 6:27 PM   by Anonymous
You New Englanders are a joke. You know who would agree with this column: Tom Brady. He'd be the first to admit he gets too much hype at the expense of his team. That's why the Pats won those Super Bowls. Because of team. The hype machine on idividuals is ridiculous. Pats fans should know this. They're just so paranoid about being inferior to New York they can't see anything straight and cry like babies.
There is no way you take Brady over Elway with two minutes left in the game needing a score...No one had more 4th quarter comebacks than Elway the last time I checked...You have to either be completely illogical or a young, ignorant fan who did not have the opportunity to see John Elway in action to arrive at the choice of Brady over Elway...
Posted: 9:29 PM   by Anonymous
They voted the wrong Manning as one of the most overrated. But yeah, Brady is totally overrated. I tribute his passing efficiency more tohis offensive line than aything he personally does - even Joey Harrington would be a pro-bowler with the job Brady's line does.
Posted: 7:48 PM   by Anonymous
How can you tag Peyton Manning a playoff choker? Are you joking me? He lost in 2003 and 2004 to the Patriots... He also lost each year to the Patriots in the regular season... So are you sure that they just didn't have a better team??
Tom Brady cannot even be compared to Peyton Manning. Manning runs his offense while Brady throws checkdowns to running backs and screens to wide receivers.
Give credit where it's due. New England had great teams for a few years but Brady wasn't the saviour everyone makes him out to be. Bledsoe was also doing fine under the same system. It's an easy system to flourish under.
Posted: 2:53 PM   by Anonymous
I'm a New England Patriots fan. You'll be shocked to know that yes I do think Brady is overrated, even though I think he's an amazing QB the same way Montana was an amazing QB: able to read defenses, make quick decisions, manage a game flawlessly, not make mistakes, has great poise, etc.

I think he's overrated in that he doesn't have the physical skills like Marino, Elway or even Bledsoe at his prime. These quarterbacks were able to take over a game because of their astounding arm strength, ie., throw 60 yard touchdown passes into tight coverage. However, having said that I still think Brady is an amazing QB who, though he can't carry teams by himself, can win games because of his composure.
Posted: 2:55 PM   by Anonymous
I'm a New England Patriots fan. You'll be shocked to know that yes I do think Brady is overrated, even though I think he's an amazing QB the same way Montana was an amazing QB: able to read defenses, make quick decisions, manage a game flawlessly, not make mistakes, has great poise, etc.

I think he's overrated in that he doesn't have the physical skills like Marino, Elway or even Bledsoe at his prime. These quarterbacks were able to take over a game because of their astounding arm strength, ie., throw 60 yard touchdown passes into tight coverage. However, having said that I still think Brady is an amazing QB who, though he can't carry teams by himself, can win games because of his composure.elf, can win games because of his composure.
Posted: 3:43 PM   by Anonymous
in response to the out pouring of love for tom brady i wish to say this, he is easily the most overrated player in football. some one below asked "who would you want running your offense, down 4 points, 80 yards from paydirt, with less than 2 minutes left in the game?" i'll tell you. all-time i'd say roger staubach. this year i'd say peyton manning. what's mannings track record the past few years oh thats right AFC championship game in 2003, 49 touchdown passes in 2004, 13-0 in 2005, and this season he has the colts undefeated again. what has brady done? oh yeah... barely beaten a bunch of powderpuff teams. tom brady is extremely overated. and new england won those superbowls because of their defense and their kicker. not tom brady.
Posted: 11:41 PM   by Anonymous
overrated? afc championship with gaffney and caldwell? Manning has Wayne Harrison, and had Edgerrin James for a couple years.
Posted: 12:39 AM   by Anonymous
Overated? You're an idiot. Montana had so many more star weapons than Brady has had. We are not talking about one fluke Superbowl win, we are talking about 3 Super Bowl wins and he was one possession away from going to his 4th in 6 years. Wake Up!

PS - I am not a Patriot's fan, but was stunned by what a stupid article you wrote!
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