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4/29/2007 10:10:00 AM
Eight intriguing second-day prospects
Several very productive rookies were selected in Rounds 4 through 7 last year, including Texans TE Owen Daniels, Saints OT Jahri Evans, Jets RB Leon Washington, DE Elvis Dumervil, Colts S Antoine Bethea and Saints WR Marques Colston.
Let's take a look at eight players who have a chance to be this year's second-day gems:
1. Antonio Pittman, RB, Ohio State: Pittman rushed for over 1,200 yards his last two seasons at Ohio State and ran a 4.4 40 at the combine. He should go very quickly on Sunday.
2. Brian Robison, DE/LB, Texas: Robison started off as a linebacker at Texas and then became a productive defensive lineman. He's extremely strong and should be a good role player in a 3-4 defense.
3. Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware: The best tight end still available on most draft boards, Patrick has good pass-catching skills and could make an immediate impact like Owen Daniels did with the Texans.
4. Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State: Teams seem to be concerned about Smith's height (6-0) and he has steadily fallen throughout the pre-draft process. He does have mobility and other short quarterbacks have thrived lately. Best-case scenario, he's similar to Drew Brees.
5. Zak DeOssie, LB, Brown: Several teams appear to be interested in the son of former NFL linebacker Steve DeOssie. Zak, at the very least, will contribute immediately on special teams. Expect him to go in the fourth round.
6. Tanard Jackson, CB, Syracuse: Jackson doesn't have burner speed, but he has nice size and decent cover skills, which are always coveted.
7. Antony Arline, CB, Baylor: Not a big name in college, Arline has great measurables -- he's 6-1 and runs a 4.4 40 -- and has shot up draft boards in recent weeks.
8. Brandon Siler, LB, Florida: Teams aren't quite sure if he's big enough to play inside or athletic enough to play outside. But he produced in college and should make a nice complementary player.
Troy Smith has still not been picked? WOW! This is reminiscent of how he came to OSU; last scholarship athlete, brought on as an athlete and not to QB, and with a chip on his shoulder. He's going to make some team really happy in a few years.
im not big ten guy but troy smith seems like he is going to be a good pro, had he been 6'4, we would be talking jamarcus or troy, but if he had no trouble throwing over big guys in college why would he have trouble in the pros?
troy isn't the only QB who would have been top 5 if it weren't for his height. chris leak is right there in the same boat, and it's a shame that a few inches has dropped both of these excellent QBs past the 4th round and probably relegated them to a backup role or maybe Europe or Arena
How did Trent Edwards from Stanford (who passed for 1,000 yards and had 6TD and 6INT's on a 1-11 team) go in the third round and Troy Smith drops all the way to the fifth??? Oh! That's right, Edwards is four inches taller!!! Last I checked, OSU's o-linemen were pretty tall and Smith had no problems seeing over them. If Troy is as good as Drew Brees, who he has been drawing comparisons to,I would take it. Good luck with the Ravens Troy!!!
I dont get it, how could a QB take his team to the national championship game and win, yet a guy who wouldnt even win a decent game (Quinn, Russell) be considered so much better? Just due to a few inches in height? Doesnt make sense to me.
I have no clue why a four year starter (in two different offenses) SEC QB (Chris Leak) that won a National Championship with a passing game is not highly regarded. What NFL QB consistently throws OVER anyone? NFL QBs throw in passing lanes. Duh!? Same sentiments for Troy Smith and I cannot stand Tressel's dirty OSU program. The "supposed" NFL experts value HEIGHT over TALENT. Unless, of course, that "talent" is displayed at the Combine running around in shorts rather than over 3-4 years of playing football in full gear. Amazing! (It is yet another reason that I prefer college football over the NFL.)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but not every college football player makes the NFL. It's the cream of the crop, boys! Guys are faster, read passers better, close on the ball more quickly. So when Troy has to loft that out pass instead of firing it in there like a 6'5" QB, it might have bad consequences. Drew Brees still struggles with the out b/c of his arm strength, but he makes up for it in other ways.
It's always funny when the southerners come out to cry and puff their chests and go on with the same old spiel about how the SEC is the only conference that plays football, and how the rest of the country has no idea how to play it.
If you SEC people had been paying attention for the past four years, you'd see exactly why Chris Leak wasn't picked in a high spot. His decision-making is suspect and his abilities were maxed out by Urban Meyer; kid doesn't have anymore upside. Even this year, when the Gators stomped OSU in the title game, Chris Leak split time at QB.
The only short quarterback who is any good in the NFL is Drew Brees. Troy Smith and Chris Leak can't make half the passes Brees can, and until they do, they have no chance of playing in the NFL, smart guys.
Quote: "dont get it, how could a QB take his team to the national championship game and win, yet a guy who wouldnt even win a decent game (Quinn, Russell) be considered so much better? Just due to a few inches in height? Doesnt make sense to me."
How can you say that Russell didn't win a decent game? You obviously have no idea of what you are talking about.
Doug Flutie was short too, but Troy Smith is a weenie. He won a Heisman trophy for being the QB of Ohio State. Shameless. Why do Heisman winners always fail in the championship game? (Except for Leinart vs. Oklahoma)