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12/03/2007 02:18:00 PM

Top five all-time BCS blunders

Ohio St.
Ohio State thought it was headed to the Rose Bowl, but Buckeyes will now play for national championhsip.
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By Lang Whitaker, SI.com

Yes, I am upset with the way the BCS played out, and yes, I went to the University of Georgia. These two things are completely related. It seems fitting to me that the BCS has the acronym that it does. Rules change week to week, undefeated teams never get a chance while other teams get multiple chances to lose in the top spot: This is college football. Here are my top five all-time BCS blunders…

1. 2008: LSU vs. Ohio St. -- Hey, it's a team that was ranked No.1 twice this season and lost both times, playing against a team who was ranked number 1 and also lost! Instead of teams that haven't had a chance to screw up while ranked at the top, let's reward these failures! At least the SEC will get to prove its dominance over the Big 10 yet again.

2. 2004: LSU, USC and Oklahoma -- All three schools finished with one loss, but USC ended up the odd school out. LSU beat Oklahoma, while USC beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl, causing a split in the various end of season polls.

3. 2005: Auburn -- Despite going undefeated in the powerful SEC, Auburn wasn't given a chance to play for the national title.

4. 2002: Nebraska -- The Huskers didn't win their Conference or Division, yet they were selected to go the championship game ahead of Colorado, who beat them weeks earlier. Miami crushed Nebraska, 32-14.

5. 1999 and 2000: Kansas St. -- Their schedule was allegedly weak both seasons, both Kansas St. finished 3rd and 6th, respectively, in the BCS rankings but were passed over by the big bowls both years in favor of bigger schools.

What's your (least) favorite BCS blunder? Let us know below…

Lang Whitaker is the executive editor of SLAM magazine and writes daily at SLAMonline.com
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Comments:

Posted: December 3, 2007 3:20 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Georgia fans -- your team failed to win its conference therefore it DOES NOT get a chance to win a national title

USC fans -- your team may be playing the best football but you lost at home to Stanford, a 41 point underdog -- you lose your chance.
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:23 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Huh. Let's look at the consistency here, shall we?
* You complain about the 2005 Auburn team missing their chance to play for the title, and also mention how the SEC will yet again prove their dominance over the Big Ten this year. Hey, here's an update from 2006: Wisconsin soundly defeated that 2005 Auburn team in the Capital One bowl. So, not only does YOUR OWN EXAMPLE prove that BCS got it right, but it also disproves the SEC dominance over the Big Ten.

* You complain about the 2002 Huskers being sent to the title game despite not winning their Conference or Division, yet when the BCS tries to correct that error this year by selecting two Conference winners to go to the title game, you complain about that too. (Probably because it hurts Georgia!) As you obviously noticed, it's easier to pick apart any of the imperfect matchups that other people create rather than coming up with some of your own.
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:34 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
this list isn't at all accurate, and is basically a Georgia fan rant more than anything.

first, this year the BCS got it right. Ohio St has just 1 loss, LSU lost both their games in triple overtime (and beat 4 currently ranked teams). not to mention both teams won their conference. Georgia did not. and if a team can't win its own division, let alone its conference, why then should they be elgible for the national title.
lets not forget that this argument carried a lot of weight last year in picking FU over Michigan.

second, the only major problem with the bcs this year was that Kansas is in the Orange bowl instead of Missouri. notice who played the tougher schedule, who won the head to head matchup, and who won the division.

third, how could the 2001/2002 Huskers not be the biggest blunder? again, they failed to win even their division, and got in over an Oregon team that was in fact champions of their own conference.

finally, as a Tennessee fan i feel the need to rub in the fact that we beat y'all 35-14 earlier this year, and if not for that game, Georgia would be in the title game without any questions (assuming they'd win a de facto home game against LSU).
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:39 PM   by Anonymous Don't be bitter
Why's this year your number 1? b/c your poor little georgia got left out... if they were in it definately wouldn't be number one. I agree though that they should be in instead of LSU. But the championship game isn't the biggest "blunder" of this year's BCS. That would have to go putting Kansas in and not Missouri. But my least favorite of all would have to be your number 2.

GO BUCKS!!! OH-IO
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:40 PM   by Anonymous XothrmiK
Let me get this straight, this year your upset that a team (Georgia) that didn't win its division, subdivision, and didn't even appear in the conf. title game is not in the national title game? But when that very thing happened in 2002 it made your list as a top five all time blunder (alright at least Nebraska won its subdivision)? I personally don't have a problem with the matchup this year. If a playoff is soooooo bad then why does every other division in football do it? I dont know actuall stats but #1 vs. #2 very rarely happens in the lower divisions. Take it as you will but for me its just more fuel for the fire.
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:45 PM   by Anonymous Clint
Mizzou is passed up for lower ranked Illinois and Kansas?! Both teams that Missouri beat... What a Joke.
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:52 PM   by Anonymous jjoker20
Yes, both LSU and OSU lost their respective number 1 rankings. But Who hasnt this year? Which is why every team but Hawaii have lost. Would you rather see Hawaii in the national title game? They havent played anyone, Now you can say the same for Ohio State, but 6 Big Ten teams are playing in bowls!
Posted: December 3, 2007 3:54 PM   by Anonymous grtstUofalltime
USC, ranked #1 in both polls, somehow gets left out of BCS title game because of incompetent and ignorant computer rankings.....doesn't matter as USC takes care of business anyways and wins yet another National Championship....
Posted: December 3, 2007 4:12 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Congrats to the Bulldogs on winning the SEC East and the Championship game! Oh wait, nevermind. Good luck against Hawaii.
i agree with you about this year. i'm a usc fan and i was pulling for georgia to go to the national championship game. unfortunately, a lot of people in the media made up rules as they went which helped to sway voters away from georgia and towards lsu. it used to be if you lost early, you could make a comeback since you could string a bunch of victories together. if you lost late, you were hosed. lsu lost late and the voters barely dropped them. every other team that has lost during the year fell further than 4 spots. maybe mike richt should've used a les miles logic statment and said, "you know, we were undefeated through 3 quarters of regulation in every game."
Posted: December 3, 2007 4:20 PM   by Anonymous Mizzou 79
Mizzou 2007
Posted: December 3, 2007 4:31 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
In 2002 Colorado deserved it even less than Nebraska. It was Oregon that got ripped off. They had a better record than Colorado, and proved their superiority by hammering Colorado in The Fiesta Bowl.
Posted: December 3, 2007 4:37 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Lang isn't a little biased is he? SEC dominance over the Big 10? The Big 10 went 2-1 in bowls against the Little 12 From Down South last year.
Posted: December 3, 2007 4:47 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Wow...a 1 - 2 record in bowl games is the sec version of dominance! That's impressive. Do you think you'll actually post a winning record this year?
Posted: December 3, 2007 5:18 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Uhmmm... how about the 2001 Fiesta Bowl? Notre Dame goes with 2 losses, and no wins over a team with a winning record. Michael Vick's Va Tech gets left out of the BCS with one loss. At least ND got humiliated by the Beavers.
Posted: December 3, 2007 5:21 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The biggest blunder was obviously when Florida State got into the BCS title game against Oklahoma, even though they finished with the same record as Miami (who beat FSU head to head) and Washington (who beat Miami head to head).

And enough whining about Georgia. Georgia got blown out by Tennessee (who got blown out 3 times) and a 6-6 South Carolina team. The only team that has a legitimate complaint is Oklahoma.
Posted: December 3, 2007 5:36 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Georgia Fans - you contend that the SEC is the strongest conference out there, yet the team that WON THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP does not deserve to play for the national title. Huh?
Posted: December 3, 2007 7:14 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Aren't rankings based on how many wins a team has? (Unless that team is from the WAC, of course) So why is it so wrong that the only major conference 1-loss team is in the championship game?

LSU blew two chances to get to the championship. Call me crazy, but they shouldn't be there.
Posted: December 3, 2007 7:28 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
2001 FSU was in the Championship game after Miami beat them. There was no calculation for BSC teams head to head match ups then. Then FSU offense did not score a point again OU.

2002 Oregon would have been number two, but the voters tried to push Colorado above them after they beat Nebraska by 40+ points. What happened? Nebraska goes to the title game.
Posted: December 3, 2007 7:39 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
If OSU & LSU shouldn't play for the title...than who should? Georgia who didn't win their conference? Or USC who lost twice including a home game to a 41 point underdog Stanford? Hawaii? who plays a JV schedule? Maybe Kansas who beat 2 teams with a winning record all year and couldn't make their conference game. Say what you want about OSU, but they lost by 7 points to Illinois who ended up 9-3 and ranked #13. Everyone had chances, and everyone lost games. last I checked USC, Missouri were ranked #1 at one point and lost.
Posted: December 3, 2007 8:00 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Waaaa Waaaa Waaaa Geaux Tigers!
Win your division next time and don't get blown out by Tennessee. BCS championship games are great. Maybe your coach can cry us river while LSU spanks Ohio St.
Posted: December 3, 2007 8:07 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I am not a huge fan of Mizzou but how did they get passed over... this is a huge blunder... i have not seen any explanation for this... so much for being higher ranked...
Posted: December 3, 2007 8:44 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
In 2002, you should include Oregon. They too had a legitimate argument (ranked #2 everywhere except the BCS ranking). And they clobbered Colorado (BCS #2) in the Fiesta Bowl.
Posted: December 3, 2007 9:00 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Yeah, I'm a Penn State grad and I'm pretty annoyed that we don't get to beat an SEC team this year.
Posted: December 3, 2007 9:49 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
To the genius who thought Auburn lost to Wisconsin the year they went undefeated needs to check his knowledge again. Auburn beat Virginia Tech that year to finish undefeated.
Posted: December 3, 2007 10:01 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
People are killing the BCS without knowing all the facts. The BCS sets up #1 and #2 .Kansas was not a result of the BCS , rather the ORANGE BOWL, which selected them.
Posted: December 3, 2007 10:51 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The 2000 Washington Huskies...you know, the 10-1 team that 10-1 Miami lost to in a game that no one seems to ever remember ever having occurred...
Posted: December 3, 2007 10:55 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
And of course, the "wronged" Miami team of 2000 wrote the script for the 2-loss Colorado team of 2001, with the Pac-10 (Oregon) seemingly overlooked yet again...
Posted: December 3, 2007 10:56 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
First, I'm an Ohio State fan. Let the hating begin.
Second, I'm thinking this is the year that they should cancel the BCS championship game. Both teams "back doored" the title game. No team really deserved to be in the game. If you can't win your division and your conference, you shouldn't be allowed to play in the championship game. Unless we had some kind of a playoff, there's no way to know who the BCS champion is.
Third, "grtstUofalltime" said USC is number 1 in both polls. I'm wondering which polls they are...or maybe it was meant to be poles. I'm not certain.
Fourth, if the SEC is so darned tough, how come Ivy League schools and Big East schools have winning records against them?
Ohhhh...Snap!
Posted: December 3, 2007 11:15 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
This list is terrible and shows how short memory people have these days. Clearly 2004 & 2005 were much worse seasons for the BCS.
Posted: December 3, 2007 11:30 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
that guy just wrecked every argument out there
lsu georgia owned
Posted: December 3, 2007 11:34 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
* You complain about the 2005 Auburn team missing their chance to play for the title, and also mention how the SEC will yet again prove their dominance over the Big Ten this year. Hey, here's an update from 2006: Wisconsin soundly defeated that 2005 Auburn team in the Capital One bowl. So, not only does YOUR OWN EXAMPLE prove that BCS got it right, but it also disproves the SEC dominance over the Big Ten.


That makes no sense at all. Wisconsin beat Auburn the following year. Auburn went undefeated in the regular season, won the SEC Championship and then went on to beat Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl so the BCS did get it wrong you idiot.
I don't like the BCS that much either, but this is just a biased piece of garbage.

Why not just give the national title should to the winner of the SEC along with rankings 1-10. Heck, why even play the games, the SEC is so dominant they don't need to show up. Infact they often don't in their bowl games.

Honestly, if you have a complaint that's fine, but don't cry because your favorite team isn't (and doesn't deserve to be) number one.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:11 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Your sport column alone is the biggest blunder of SLAM magazine. I wonder why they hire you as their editor in the 1st place. Read your own #4 blunder again and then use your common sense and replace Nebraska with Georgia. Oh! I forgot! Your job is to SLAM the BCS and the universities that happened to be in the bowl system.
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There is a difference between Georgia and that Nebraska game. Nebraska lost their last game to Colorado so they went into the national championship off of a loss instead of six straight wins. Besides Georgia, they got it wrong due to OU, Va Tech, and USC all could have been in their. This is a sham year, and I am boycotting the national championship game.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:22 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Georgia was Co-Champs of the SEC East and lost the tiebreaker to Tennessee. So know what you're saying before you post. LSU is the best team in the country when healthy bottom line and will embarrass the Buckeyes just like Florida last year. The main difference between the SEC and the other BCS conferences is the talent on defense.
The BCS needs to just put in there that you have to win your conference to be in the championship game. Instead, they keep voting it down, and then holding it against teams like Georgia this year and Michigan last year.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:36 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
This list is ridiculous...the BCS got it right this year...how can you blame the BCS for everyone choking every week...at the end, OSU and LSU were the most deserving...The Nebraska debacle in 2001 has to be #1, followed by USC getting shut out in 2003 when both polls had them #1...
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:23 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Hey, anonymous poster at 3:23 p.m. That 2005 Auburn team went to the Sugar Bowl and soundly beat Virginia Tech, to complete a 13-0 season. That team then graduated 4 first round picks including two in the top 5. What happened the following season has absolutly nothing to do with that unreal 13-0 Auburn team. I like that you made perhaps the weakest argument of all of the posts here. '05 Auburn had as much talent as those '00-'01 Miami teams. They just got burned in the preseason polls because the voters were fooled the year before. That preseason #1 team ended up being all they were supposed to be, just a year later.
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:41 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Wait...what? The Auburn team from 2004 and 2005 were completely different! You can't say a Wisconsin victory over a team that lost Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Jason Campbell, and Carlos Rogers (all drafted first round) means Auburn didn't deserve a shot the year before. Are you serious with that comment?
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:47 AM   by Anonymous Tara
Putting two conference champions against each other is a mistake when there were... how many?... yeah 12 unranked teams that beat a top 5 team this year. To come out with a single loss, or two losses, both in triple overtime, AND win the conference championship. I'd say that's not too shabby. And I won't even comment on the ignorance of your comment about the SEC dominating the Big 10. Refer to last years bowl game record.
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:39 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
wahhh wahhhhh my SEC team was snubbed.....wahhhh...

Win your division and don't get blown out by a mediocre at best Tennessee team UGA fan.....

SEC dominance over the Big 10? Is that why the all-time bowl record is tied? is that why the Big 10 went 2-1 last year against the SEC?

Wahhhhh!!!!!!!
Posted: December 4, 2007 5:58 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Go West Virginia...beat "The University of Texas at Norman"...

Hook'em...
here's a thought, how about we not rank teams till the the regular season is done? and we don't hand out the heisman until after the bowl games are finished. nobody gets jumped in the polls and the heisman trophy winner doesn't get his butt pounded in the national championship game!
Posted: December 4, 2007 8:22 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
This year the biggest BCS blunder? Try the season when Auburn was snubbed though they went undefeated in the SEC. The biggest blunder of the season in Missouri getting screwed, not lil ole Georgia. Granted I dont think either LSU or OSU are the two best teams, but they are the most deserving. Georgia, are you kidding me? You did not even win your division and that Tennessee team that whupped up on you lost in the SEC Championship to LSU. USC, you lost at home to Stanford, enough said. Oklahoma, lost to Colorado in a game they completely gave away in the 4th quarter and were dominated by Texas Tech.
Posted: December 4, 2007 9:03 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Any BCS game with Notre Dame in it.
Posted: December 4, 2007 10:19 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
It's funny how you cry like a little girl who lost her Barbie doll about LSU getting the bid this year over UGA. UGA didn't win the conference championship. Yet later you cry almost as loud about Nebraska in 2002 going to the big game when they didn't win their conference championship.
Somehow Missouri, which is still ranked higher in the BCS, and beat Kansas just 10 days ago rather solidly doesn't get to go to a BCS bowl game.

If the monkeys in charge of this system don't seem to care what they reward, why in the world should the sports fans?
Posted: December 4, 2007 10:42 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Nebraska 2002 is the reason I can't buy into Georgia 2008 in the "championship" game
Posted: December 4, 2007 10:56 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Get over your UGA woes and understand that a team that has 2 teams finish ahead of them in their own conference has no argument for playing for a national title. UGA got destroyed by Tennessee - thoroughly embarrassed, actually - and lost at home to a South Carolina team that will be playing in a completely meaningless bowl game that no one even knows the name of. The only loss OSU had was to a BCS team playing in the Rose Bowl, and it was only by 7 points. Maybe you should be thankful that your 3rd place team actually made it to a BCS bowl, unlike Mizzou who has to watch Kansas play in a BCS bowl even though Mizzou beat them.

It just figures... only SEC fans would ever root for their arch rival simply because they want their conference to win. Think anyone in Columbus, Oh would actually root for Michigan in a title game simply because they are in the Big Ten? No way, would never happen. Maybe next year you can root for your team to actually win their conference... only then should the words "title game" ever be uttered.
Posted: December 4, 2007 11:11 AM   by Anonymous VT all the Way
Auburn soundly beat a VT team???? if you call 13-10 soundly beaten. It was a good game. Auburn wasn't screwed, they were the ranked 3rd behind two highly ranked undefeated teams. The only reason there was controversy was that OK had failed in the big games by huge points. The problem was that no one anticipated 3 major program going undefeated. Not the same as this year trying to pick the best 2 loss team. GA played well at the end of the season, but has no justification over LSU given the overall strength of LSU wins and losses compared to GA. Tenn beats GA, LSU beats Tenn for title, not even close. Be happy you are in the BCS when not even playing for your own title. The rule on not winning championships is for teams in the Big EAst and Big Ten so that an OSU or Mich who goes 11-1 but losses the Big ten to a WI team who goes 9-3 but undefeated in the Big Ten because they didn't play MI or OSU that year and get the automatic BCS bid. It should almost never go to a team who doesn't win their own championship game, even if it is unwritten.
Posted: December 4, 2007 11:32 AM   by Anonymous Arch in Nashville
What's the record of the mighty SEC vs the Big 10 over the last 20 years???? 20 wins and 17 losses. Dominance like that deserves laughter. Did we forget that Florida had their hats handed to them in the National title game vs Nebraska? I prefer to look at history beyond one year's debacle. In Les we trust! Go Bucks.
Posted: December 4, 2007 11:37 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
So it was wrong that Nebraska made it in 2002 even though they didn't win their conference/division but it would somehow be OK for Georgia to have done the same this year? How convenient.
Posted: December 4, 2007 11:49 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Perhaps 2004 Auburn was left out of the MNC Game because they lost at home the previous season to USC 23-0. That team did have Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown and Carnell Williams. Who wanted to see a repeat of that? Then Auburn replaced USC with Louisiana Tech.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:01 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I find it ironic that the BCS people choose LSU for their championship game, because in their words, LSU won their conference and their conference championship games,despite having two losses. But, in 2005 Auburn does the same thing and on top of that go undefeated but yet do not get chance to play in the BCS title game. What a ripoff!
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:04 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
It seems readers require a refresher on the peculiar character of Dawgs fans. First, the Dawgs should win every game and be crowned the national champ every year. If this doesn't happen, it's a travesty! Second, Dawg fandom trumps objectivity, no matter one's vocation. Judge to journalist, everyone and everything takes the backseat to the red & black. Third, no one trash talks the Dawgs except Dawgs fans... And believe you me, no one can trash talk the Dawgs like Dawgs fans. No one! Satan himself cannot be so cruel as a Dawgs fan down on his or her team.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:23 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Anon #2 - you are a moron.

It was the 2004 Auburn team that got left out, not the 2005 team.

How can Auburn 2004 not be #1? They didn't lose any games and played more Top 25 teams than USC or Oklahoma.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:32 PM   by Anonymous gnjaxon
The bigger crime for Mizzou is Kansas being selected for the BCS as opposed to Illinois being selected. The rules for the BCS state that only two teams from each conference can be selected. Since Mizzou beat Kansas and won their division that is the bigger travesty. As long as Illinois finished in the top 14 they were likely going to a BCS bowl game as the second Big Ten team.
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:38 PM   by Anonymous Fla. Buckeye
I know it’s all about the money, but the absolute biggest blunder was putting the BCS on FOX. They do a great job with NFL (sans stretching robot). FOX does an awful job with College football, from the on-air talent (especially the in studio guys) to the game coverage...awful. The BCS belongs on ABC or CBS.

OH-IO - Go Bucks!
Posted: December 4, 2007 12:48 PM   by Anonymous Drew
This may be the dumbest column/rant I have ever seen. Why didn't the author just title it, "I'm from Georgia, I'm a baby, now let me cry about how we lost two games, but still want to complain about a one-loss team and our conference champion playing in front of us."

Is the BCS perfect, absolutely not. Did they get it right this year? Yes, and no. The two most deserving teams are playing for the championship. The other bowls are a little more arguable.

On a side note, SEC dominance? Penn St. and Wisconsin both won over top-tier SEC teams last year in bowl games. Don't let Florida's performance against an unprepared Ohio St. team skew your view.
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:12 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The only job the bcs has is to place two teams in the national championship game. thats it! you may agree or disagree with the choices, but there should be no arguement against the bcs for other bowl selections. they are made by thier respective bowl committee's.
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:24 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
2000, when Miami got left out of the title game. They beat FSU and both had won loss. The Canes should have won a three-peat when they were robbed by the refs in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. Still the worst call in the history of college football!!
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:28 PM   by Anonymous Divot
worthless list based on your Georgia bias.
C'mon, your better than that. Or are you?
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:38 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
How about the 2000-2001 BCS Championship when Florida State got to play for the title game against Oklahoma, where Miami and FSU both had one loss, Miami's loss was early in the season (week 2 at Washington), and Miami beat FSU later in the year.
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:38 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Why do you still have a job? Every article you write is about a team in Georgia. I was excited to read this article, but then I saw it said Lang Whitaker. I decided to read it anyways and as always, it was a bad decision. I will never again read a Lang Whitaker item.

SI please fire this man! There must be writers out there that realize there are 50 states.
Posted: December 4, 2007 1:51 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I love the fact that people are complaining about Kansas getting in for a BCS instead of Missouri a week after losing a much-hyped game to them. Notre Dame suffered a similar fate to Florida St. for the national championship in 1993, depsite the fact they they beat the Seminoles handily in an even more hyped game that was not as close as the final score indicated. This was three years after ND also handily defeated #1 Colorado, but lost the Chanpionship to Miami because of "head-to-head" competion. Some real consistency there by the voters.
No let's look at the National Championship game last year forget about the other crappy bowl games.........FLORIDA SPANKED OHIO STATE!!!!!!!! AND LSU WILL SPANK THEM THIS YEAR!!!!!!!! you know why......SPEED KILLS!!!!! And the pansy Big 10 doesn't know how to react to SPEED!!!! I am a Florida State fan so I have nothing to whine about........But Florida State could beat Ohio State as bad as they are this year!!!!!! So we will again see the buckeyes get whipped and thrown around like a rag doll, and again see that the BCS is flawed!!!!!!!! I called it last year the day I heard Florida(oh yeah everyone said that UF didn't belong there...) was going to play for the title that UF was going to win and I am calling it this year LSU IN A ROUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have a great day!!!!!!!
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:01 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I think what is lost in all of this BCS mess is the possibility of a weakening of college football. Teams like Ohio St., Kansas had stellar records based on sub-par schedules. If I was an AD who wanted to be in the BCS every year I would just schedule the MAC out of conference schedule like OSU did or I would play Florida International and Southeastern Louisiana like Kansas did. At least Virginia Tech and LSU scheduled each other out of conference. But a dangerous precedent could have been set. Don't be surprised when more and more big time programs schedule more and more Mid-Major programs.

I also believe that pre-season rankings are a waste of time. We all know none of them end up accurate, yet they put certain teams at a severe disadvantage because the ladder they have to climb is much longer. If USC starts out ranked #1 and Oklahoma is ranked #2 and Auburn is ranked #15 and all go undefeated, Auburn is out of luck.
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:09 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
What is really funny is all the Hawaii Haters out there who say they haven't played anybody. Ask Michigan and USC(whom rejected quite a chuck of change which included traveling expenses) why they wouldn't except a game against Hawaii. Ask Michigan State why they paid $250,000 to get out of their scheduled match-up this year with Hawaii. The BCS is the biggest load of crap ever. I would pick Boise State over the majority of the teams Ohio State beat this year! Why are the non-BCS school even in this division if they can't get a break. They have to play the other teams in their conference. That's not their fault.

P.S. LSU hasn't played like a number 1 team since they spanked VT! Georgia slipped up early but would soundly beat S. Carolina and Tennessee as well as LSU with the way they've played since. People like to use the way LSU and Georgia played against Tennessee but don't look at the Kentucky games. That means a lot coming from me(I don't like UGA)
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:10 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
This is clearly an article written by a upset Georgia fan ignoring all of the top 25 teams LSU beat throughout the year and that OSU has one loss... Does SI really support this garbage?
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:12 PM   by Anonymous echto
Even a plus-one game leaves Hawaii out of it. The whole system is messed up. If you have to win your conference championship, that should be in the rules. If you can't win the Heisman as a freshman or sophmore, that should be in the rules. College football is one of the greatest things on the planet, and so much of it is left up to idiot sportswriters and biased coaches. Oh, and Auburn is #1, but this year is #2.
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:51 PM   by Anonymous tacobellmanager
The creation of the BCS is my favorite all-time BCS blunder.
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:51 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Big Ten went 2-1 vs. The SEC last year in bowl games. Convenient how every SEC lover/loser manages to forget that while espousing their conference's supposed dominance.

Hey, facts are facts. Deal with it.
Posted: December 4, 2007 2:52 PM   by Anonymous SEC Rules
It wasn't the 2005 Auburn team that went undefeated, it was the 2004 team, which went 13-0 and defeated Virginia Tech in the Nokia Sugar Bowl. They did not lose to Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl. Get your facts right before you get all hot and bothered.
Posted: December 4, 2007 3:38 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Regarding someone's comment that Oklahoma got jobbed out playing for the national title this year, I strongly disagree, and I'm an OU fan.

My favorite team lost to eventual 6-6 Colorado. I can partially blame the loss against TT on the fact that Bradford got knocked out, but there is no excuse to losing to Colorado.

Missouri is the team that has the biggest beef this year. They should be in Lang's Top 5.
Posted: December 4, 2007 3:39 PM   by Anonymous SupErConference
1-2 record against the "big" 10 last year doesn't really matter. the 1 that counts was a drumming by UF over super-heavyweight favorites OSU. what was that score again? 41-14? go SEC! 9, that's right 9 bowl games this year for the most dominant conference in college football. and LSU went 6-1 against top 25 teams this year. how many ranked teams did osu play?
Posted: December 4, 2007 3:54 PM   by Anonymous Quis
Garbage article.

Who should be playing?
Kansas?
Hawaii?
Georgia?
USC?
Va Tech?

How can you say that any of these team have a better arguement than LSU vs OSU?

Ohio State climbed from 7 to 1 BCS Seed thanks to the other team's disastrous past two weeks.

Even the only undefeated team Hawaii had some poor games and played plenty of poor teams.

I'll take the nation's best defense against the LSU exciting offense over any of the other possible matchups.
Posted: December 4, 2007 3:55 PM   by Anonymous Quis
Who should be playing?
Kansas?
Hawaii?
Georgia?
USC?
Va Tech?

How can you say that any of these team have a better arguement than LSU vs OSU?

Ohio State climbed from 7 to 1 BCS Seed thanks to the other team's disastrous past two weeks.

Even the only undefeated team Hawaii had some poor games and played plenty of poor teams.

I'll take the nation's best defense against the LSU exciting offense over any of the other possible matchups.
Posted: December 4, 2007 3:57 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The Big10 was 2-1 v. SEC last year (2006) moron
Posted: December 4, 2007 4:17 PM   by Anonymous Buckeye Bob
Anytime a non-conference champion plays in a national championship, it's a blunder.
I think you can put forth an argument that the BigTen, SEC and PAC-10 are the three top conferences. The two most deserving teams are playing this year.
Look at Hawaii's record on games played on the mainland, before you elevate them to top tier status. Take Georgia minus 16 points (or has it gone up since the last I looked).
Posted: December 4, 2007 4:34 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
So Georgia is one of the two best teams in the country and deserves to play for the national title? Okay, so they must have won their conference, right? No? LSU did?Well, at least they won their division right, and played LSU for the conference championship, right? No? So that means that there was at least two teams better than them in their own conference? So the best they were was third best in their own conference? So, correct me if I'm wrong, but third best in your conference doesn't mathematically add up to second best in the country, does it?
Posted: December 4, 2007 4:37 PM   by Anonymous rsecman
Granted the SEC went 1-2 against the Big 10 in bowls last year, however I would also point out the Big 10 was 0-2 in BCS games last year (both blow-out losses) while the SEC went 2-0 in BCS games (with both wins being blow-out victories) including winning the national championship.

This both season should be interesting with three SEC - Big 10 match-ups in major bowls.
Posted: December 4, 2007 4:52 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Wrong year on Auburn, we went undefeated in 2004 & beat VA Tech in Sugar bowl, going 13-0.

That was a great team and NOONE KNOWS if they would have been beat like OK was by USC in "the game" and we'll never know.

The BCS failed in '04, it failed this year. Even years that it "works", it fails, because it is luck when it does work.

We NEED a playoff. Some say Georgia didn't deserve to play Ohio State this season, BUT, the ESPN pundits stated during all of '04 that if you don't lose, you don't drop. But NOW, LSU jumps Georgia to play in the title game.

I'm not complaining that LSU shouldn't be in the game, it's just how they got there. They didn't play good enough against Tennessee to prove a jump that big. If it was in the middle of the season, the voters would not have pushed them up there. But, this was the LAST poll, the one that decides the matchup, so, instead of voting who the best teams in the country are, they voted who they wanted in the Title game. That's voter manipulation or voter bias in my book. If Georgia had slid into the SEC Champ game, there's a very good chance that LSU would NOT be in the Nat'l Champ game, because LSU isn't playing as good as Georgia right now.

So....the way you solve it is on the field and 8 teams in a playoff from NOW through New Year's is plenty of time to get that done, if the PTB would adopt this process.

Who else is up for some "December Madness Baby!!!" (doesn't roll of the tongue like March Madness, but you get the point)
Posted: December 4, 2007 5:07 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
4 weeks before the BCS Championship game. Seems to me that is plenty of time for a playoff system.
SEC dominance over the Big Ten? Do your homework, Sonny! Since the creation of the BCS with the 1998 season, the Big Ten LEADS the SEC in head-to-head bowl match-ups, 13-11. In the past five years, the Big Ten leads the SEC, 8-6. Last year, the Big Ten was 2-1 against the SEC, with Ohio State losing while Wisky beat Arkansas and Penn State beat Tennessee.
You have been duped by the media when it comes to the SEC and the Big Ten. Last year's NC Game loss was an anomaly. The Buckeyes will prove that this year.
Posted: December 4, 2007 5:26 PM   by Anonymous NEWMAN
This is for all of you saying the Big 10 is better than the SEC. All I have to say is Florida vs. Ohio State. I think you recall what happened in that game. Enough said!
Posted: December 4, 2007 5:46 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Letting revenue drive selections... that is the biggest blunder...
At the end of the 2003 season, Oklahoma was poised to go #1 wire to wire going into bowl season. USC and LSU were ranked #2 and #3 in the AP and coaches polls, respectively. Oklahoma laid an egg in the Big 12 Championship game to Kansas St. which allowed USC and LSU to leap frog OU in the human polls. OU had such a big lead in the BCS poll that it only dropped to #2 in the final rankings shutting out the consensus #1 team from the title game. That season is always a point of contention among LSU fans who feel that USC usurped their championship limelight. I think that's misguided because Oklahoma had no business playing in the title game and benefitted from the season-long hype. In 2004 Auburn got the snub, but what else would you expect when the #1 and #2 teams (USC & Oklahoma) went wire-to-wire without a loss?
Posted: December 4, 2007 8:02 PM   by Anonymous bigirv1971@yahoo.com
My favorite blunder was not a BSC year. It goes back to 1993. This clearly displays the bias and hypocrisy that exist in college football. FSU is given the NC over Notre Dame, even though it had lost to ND in the regular season. They even let FSU stay at number two after the L in the regular season, so it could get another shot at NC game, even though, ND, WV and Nebraska were undefeated at the time. ND eventually loses a game. FSU gets title shot, even though WV and Nebraska were undefeated and should have played each other, right? Wrong! Powers that be get lucky and UN and WV lose bowl games. However, ND and FSU win bowl games. ND beat FSU so ND wins NC based on tiebreaker, right? Wrong! Because media loves Coach B and felt he was running out of chances to win a title, the media gives FSU national championship. BCS came five years later to "improve" things. What has it improved? 3 of the last 4 years have yielded undefeated teams that did not get a chance to play for the title (2004 had 5 teams finish season undefeated). After this year's fiasco, I am convinced that God is trying to create every scenario possible to show BCS officials that the bowl system needs to be scrapped and the playoff instituted--the only fair and logical option left. I doubt these knuckleheads are heeding the message however.
Posted: December 4, 2007 8:16 PM   by Anonymous MrLSU22
So why should LSU be in it? WEll, frankly because no one else is wirthy.

Georgia- Can't go to the championship game if not only didn't play in your championship game, you didnt even PLAY in it.

USC- You lost to Stanford. You think it's the same as LSU losing? Yeah, losing to Standford at home when they're a 41-pt underdog isn't the same as losing in triple OT to a then-ranked UK team or an Arkansas team with a future heisman winner on it.

Virginia Tech- Can't get in over LSU when they STOMPED you big time this season. I mean, embarassingly bad.

You say LSU shouldn't be in 'ship? Ok,... who should?
Posted: December 4, 2007 8:20 PM   by Anonymous bigirv1971@yahoo.com
Slight correction for that overzealous UW fan. That 2004-05 Auburn team you are talking about finished the year undefeated by defeating VT 16-13. The 2005-06 Auburn team you defeated was minus Jason Campbell, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, and Carlos Rogers. I doubt you would have been able to stay on the field with that team. UW would be a sub .500 team in the SEC. I cannot wait for OSU to get skulldrug again by the SEC. As for UW, Yyu guys will never win a title or go undefeated because you have never figured out how to throw the football, your Achilles every year. By the way, Wisconsin's all-time record against SEC- 3 wins, 7 losses, 1 tie.
Posted: December 4, 2007 9:13 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
LSU this year. What a joke.
Who can seriously believe they're better than USC right now?
Posted: December 4, 2007 9:39 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
As much as I am not a fan of OSU, they did make it through their conference undefeated and the season with one loss. But look at their strength of schedule and it is easy to see why they did so well. The biggest blunder might be the omission of Hawaii this year. If OSU can make it in off their schedule with a loss, the the Warriors should be able to make it in with their schedul eand no losses. Boise State proved last year that the WAC can play ball.

Also, the ACC doesn't deserve anyone in the title game, but how about people recognizing that it is not a weak conference. It seems to get the tag because it is comeptetive. I do wonder if Va. tech hadn't been defeated by Matt Ryan's late game heroics would they have placed above LSU after getting hammered by them. Sadly, because of the ACC on their uniforms, they would be left out.

By the way, if anyone would like to see how to crown a national champion, the FCS has their semifinal games this weekend Appalachian State is trying to earn their third consective title. They don't get votes or computers, they actually have to play to win. Oh yeah, didn't they hang a lot more points on Michigan than OSU? (And Michigan was tied for the second best Big Ten team in the regular season)
Posted: December 4, 2007 9:52 PM   by Anonymous old man
where in the 'heck' did the BCS get their computer to come out to OU and LSU? To bad we can't go back to the old days when we had 4 bowls and we were able to watch it in one day. Now it's the money, not the game. The championship games were played with the teams with the BEST records, not a team with a loosing record.... I guess its okay to have lost two games(one to unrank Arkansas), won two others with two overtime and now BCS award them a shot for the national title. Only in college football.

an old college football fan.
Understand that the BCS determines ONLY the NC match-up. So don't complain about being passed over in other bowls (Kansas St.). And recall that in 04 USC lost to Oregon State! Does that sound like a championship caliber team to you?

LSU and OSU were ranked #1 three times this year for a reason - the voters think they are the best! So what do we have here? Two of the best teams ACCORDING TO THE VOTERS (not just a computer) playing for it all. Sounds like it worked!
Blake said:
The Buckeyes will prove that this year.

Just a small public service announcement:
Ohio State is 0-8 all-time against the SEC.

No back to your regularly-scheduled delusions.
Posted: December 4, 2007 11:07 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
You said that Nebraska got in without winning its division or conference. Sounds like Georgia this year. This is a double standard if you ask me.
Posted: December 5, 2007 12:56 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
LANG, WHO DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE IN IT THEN??? HAWAII?? GIVE ME A BREAK. THE BUCKS ARE IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
Posted: December 5, 2007 1:55 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
IN 2000 WHEN FLORIDA STATE WENT TO PLAY OKLAHOMA INSTEAD OF MIAMI WHO BEAT FSU THAT YEAR HEAD TO HEAD. THE BCS IS REALLY NOT A FAIR SYSTEM.
Posted: December 5, 2007 1:58 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
LETS FACE IT OHIO STATE IS A VERY GOOD TEAM. LSU IS A VERY GOOD TEAM. GEORGIA IS A VERY GOOD TEAM.OKLAHOMA IS A VERY GOOD TEAM. THEY SHOULD LET THESE FOUR SCHOOLS PLAY TO DETERMINE THE CHAMPION. ALTHOUGH LSU WOULD STILL WIN.
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:04 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
How about undefeated Utah 2005? At the very least, they should have had a chance to play Auburn.
Posted: December 5, 2007 5:52 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Colorada shouldn't have gone in 2002, Oregon, who deserved it in the regular season also annihilated Colorado in their Bowl game... Oregon got the shaft, not Colorado... and you're STILL giving them no respect.
Posted: December 5, 2007 6:23 AM   by Anonymous moe
Will you Dawgs fans stop whininh? LSU WON THE CONFRENCE THAT YOU ARE IN!

this is like saying a team in the NFL who didnt win their wild card should get to play in the superbowl. grow up for pete's sake.

LSU is better than you. if you were as good as you claim, you would have been there in the SEC game and managed to beat them. but you didnt, you didnt. nuff said
Posted: December 5, 2007 8:35 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
hey dummy who said wisconsin defeated auburn in 06, you got that right, but actually the year we're talking about here is the 04 regular season auburn went undefeated and then beat virginia tech in the sugar bowl to finish the season UNDEFEATED. so before you run your mouth get your facts.
Posted: December 5, 2007 9:39 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
O dear lord, I have got to stop reading this CRAP. OSU vs. LSU is the BCS's biggest blunder? The game hasn't been played yet. I am not saying it will be but what if this is could be the greatest game in the history of sports and you pre-judged it as the biggest blunder. Real intelligent. A little bitter aren't we?
The ignorant people they let write articles these days amaze me. What happened to backing opinion with fact? SEC dominance over the Big Ten? State facts to back that. You can't. Blake mentions FACTS that disprove your crappy opinion. Florida vs Ohio State, blah blah blah. Yes, It was ugly and OSU was not ready for a talented and hungry Florida team. This year will be different. OSU will be ready. They are the dog this year like in 2002 when NOBODY gave them a chance. I suppose you said OSU would get clobbered that game too, right?
By the way, this will be the last article I read from you because to rank this year’s championship game as the biggest blunder is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You obviously have nothing intelligent to add to the sports world and place no facts behind stupid opinion. To be honest if they would have put OU vs. USC or Hawaii vs. LSU in the Championship it still wouldn't be a blunder because every team left it up to the system by not taking care of business on the field. They got it right partly because there really wasn’t a wrong this year.
Posted: December 5, 2007 9:48 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
NEWMAN,
No, that's not enough said. Last years Championship game just proved Florida's dominance over OSU that day, not the SEC's dominance over the Big Ten there genius. I swear, do people think before making comments or writing articles anymore. People without brains should be allowed to own computers or state opinions. Comments like that is the down fall to freedom of speech.
Posted: December 5, 2007 10:08 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
all yall r dumb check this
1. ohio state- lost to Illinois
and the big ten sucked this year
2.LSU- lost twice. had there chance 2 times being #1 and choked
3. VT- ok yea they got blown out by LSU bt besides that they had a stout season. should b in the BCS bowl.
4.oklahoma- won there conference yea they lost 2 but against texas tech brafod got hurt. other BCS champioship team
5.UGA- yea they didnt win there divison bt its not a qualification.they are playing the best ball right now and im a GT fan.
NAtional Championship should be
Va Tech vs. Oklahoma
but insted the SEC is going 2 yet again blow out the big Ten( and again im a GT fan)and yes i kno we suck
Posted: December 5, 2007 10:25 AM   by Anonymous swiggs
All i have to say is that Mizzou could have closed the deal, but it couldnt in typical Gary Pinkel fashion PLUS you only beat Kansas as a ranked team. Sure, Mizzou beat Illinois earlier in the season why Mizzou got drubbed my Oklahoma last week. Tigers, you could have sealed the deal. Just win. But you couldnt...overrated...as Gary Pinkel always has been.
Posted: December 5, 2007 10:36 AM   by Anonymous ScottCanton
I am a Georgia fan and I don't believe that UGA belonged in the title game.

Don't look at conference championships. Look at the season as a whole. Who beat more ranked teams? who had the toughest schedule? if they had a loss who was it against and what were the circumstances? With all that said. LSU deserved the spot over UGA.

In a season like this, every team has a case and a black mark.
Posted: December 5, 2007 10:40 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I'll state for the record that I think that the BCS is flawed and there should at least be a one-off playoff for the title. Years like this one, 2004 where Auburn got screwed, and when we ended up with a split LSU vs. USC National Championship (at least according to some), are all ridiculous.

More importantly, the one thing that no one has pointed out is that the bowl match ups this year are atrocious! The Rose bowl picked USC and then skipped all the way down below the top ten to pick Illinois for the sake of "tradition"? What? They skipped over LSU last year too, if I recall. If you want to be considered a BCS bowl you should be considering ALL candidates, regardless of their conference affiliation. This year Hawaii has a beef, UGA has a beef, and Illinois should be playing in December, not in a BCS bowl. Not only is the BCS flawed, but its Bowl games are flawed as well.

And FYI out there to all of y'all who are pitching fits about the BCS screwing over SEC teams (and I'm a SEC girl) the head of the BCS commission is also the head of the SEC (Slive) and even he's said this year has proven that we need to consider a playoff style finale to the season.
Posted: December 5, 2007 11:13 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
2002 - NEBRASKA - should be # 1.

The travesty wasn't that NEB went to the title game, or that Colorado didn't get to go. The travesty was that the OREGON DUCKS were ranked #2 in AP and Coaches, were ahead of Colorado in the BCS at #3...and OREGON still didn't move ahead of NEB into the 2nd slot after NEB was crushed by the COL. It makes ZERO sense that NEB could be #2 in the BCS, have COL score 60+ and beat them handily...and NEB didn't drop a single slot?!?!? Of course, Miami went on to dominate NEB, and ORE dominated COL.

That is the worst BCS mistake of all time.
Posted: December 5, 2007 11:21 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
There's no way the 1999 Kansas State team was a BCS blunder. They didnt win the Big 12 championship, and then proceeded to lose to Purdue in the Alamo following their supposed "snub". They shouldnt have been #3 in the BCS, but them getting passed over was the right decision.
Posted: December 5, 2007 11:57 AM   by Anonymous Boog
A lot of people have left almost all the reasons possible why this year's pairing sucks. Another one is that LSU gets to play in its backyard. There needs to be a rule that keeps Florida teams from playing in the Orange, Califonia teams from playing in the Rose, Arizona teams from playing in the Fiesta and LSU from playing in New Orleans for the mythical Natl Title. Set up a schedule in advance about where the game moves to when a "home" team makes the mythical National Title game. That said - no matter where LSU plays OSU this year - OSU gets killed.
Posted: December 5, 2007 12:17 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
People shut up the reason the 2005 Auburn team didn't get in the title game was because the USC and Oklahoma were ranked #1, #2 in the pre season poll and never lost all year. And they barely beat Va Tech in their bowl game. USC on the other hand took Oklahoma behind the wood shed. And the person talking about USC being #1 in both bowls was talking about the 2004 BCS mess where they were ranked #1 in the AP and coaches poll but not #1, or #2 in the BCS poll.
Posted: December 5, 2007 1:41 PM   by Anonymous ktennant
Why don't we wait and see if OSU-LSU 2008 is a blunder. Who else would go? 10-2 Georgia who wasn't even invited to the SEC championship? 11-1 Kansas who was similarly absent from the Big 12 title game? Hawaii who hails from the Weakest Athletic Conference? Give the Bucks their shot.

And for God's sake, give the conference domination vein a rest. The top of the SEC is pretty stiff (Georgia, LSU, Florida) compared with the Big Ten (OSU, Michigan, and Illinois), but the mid-level teams seem to swing the other way: the Big Ten includes Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin, all of whom I would say are slightly better than Auburn, 'Bama, South Carolina, and Arkansas. And on a side note, both the Big Ten and the SEC have eight teams in bowls. Huge discrepancy. But please, how does this even affect anything that has ever happened in collegiate football?
Posted: December 5, 2007 1:41 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
As much as I hate the Miami Hurricanes, the biggest BCS ripoff ever was the year they beat Florida State, had the same record as Florida State, were ahead of Florida State in both polls, yet Florida State had better computer rankings and got the bid to the title game over Miami. Miami stomped Florida in their bowl game while Florida State was shut out by Oklahoma in the championship game. I'm amazed at how seldom this ripoff is cited. Perhaps it's because most folks dislike the 'canes as much as I do...however, it was still the biggest hose job ever.
Posted: December 5, 2007 1:52 PM   by Anonymous OUFAN
I am not sure how LSU has been deemed the automatic right to compete in the national championship. OU also just lost two games, one with an injured quarterback, and the other on a last second field goal. LSU did barely lose two games in triple overtime, but they also squeaked by several other games as well that they came close to losing. OU also beat the number 1 ranked team in the nation in the championship game. Go figure!!
Does it take any imagination at all to parrot the stupid meme that the SEC is somehow "dominant" over the Big Ten?

News flash, would-be geniuses: Last year the Big Ten had a WINNING RECORD IN BOWL GAMES AGAINST THE SEC!
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:05 PM   by Anonymous Aubbie
*Any BCS game with Notre Dame in it.*

Amen!
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:08 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Auburn going undefeated in 2005 is without a doubt the biggest blunder. They beat some dang good SEC teams that year....and just b/c they were not towards the top in the pre-season is crazy not to give them a shot! They beat one of the better teams UGA has had on the field in years, and could have beat us by 40!
I am one of the few UGA fans out there that does not feel too jaded. We did not win our conference champ. OSU, OK, and LSU did. All three deserve the chance to play for the championship but without a playoff someone is left out. I will say this for my fellow dawgs...how do we start the day at 4 then come out on Sunday at 5....if we were not good enough to be #4 why did they vote us there?
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:28 PM   by Anonymous Big Orange
There's a reason there are 5 Little 11 teams in this years
's bowls because like Ohio St. they too play no one. And for all you idiot Big Ten fans who want to use last year's 1-2 stats (Sec v. Little 11) why don't you look at history. Just one example is Ohio St. 0-8 all time bowl record against the SEC and fixin' to be 0-9. Nice schedule to get to the champ. game OSU...Akron, Kent St, D-II Y-State and then your powerhouse conference sched. Hell, ND could have gone to a bowl if they played in the Little 11. Big Ten simply SUCKS!!! Play a conference Championsip game. Play sombody!!!
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:29 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
It's hard to call this year's match up a "blunder". That's not to say that this is the best possible pairing or even my first choice, but the reality is that this year, every conceivable match up would have been flawed in some important way. A clear consensus on the “right” answer is not possible this year.
Posted: December 5, 2007 2:56 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
If you can't raise a conference championship banner, how can you possibly raise a national championship banner. Get over it leg humper.
Posted: December 5, 2007 4:36 PM   by Anonymous The NutSack
You're an anti-buckeyete, and I hate anti-buckeyetes.
Posted: December 5, 2007 5:22 PM   by Anonymous SEC > Big 10
I'm sure this has been pointed out already, but to the tool box who said Wisconsin soundly defeated Auburn that year- Are you on glue? Auburn drilled Va Tech in the Sugar Bowl- the SEC champion does not go to the Capital One Bowl- they were in fact the best team in college football that year, as the SEC champion usually is. In fact, the NCAA should indeed do away with the BCS and just play a 12-team, all SEC tournament to decide the national champion.
We would love to play a championship game just like we all would like to see a playoff.
One problem is that the NCAA requires conferences to have 12 teams in order to play a championship game.
Check your facts before crying about things that are out of our control. That said I would love to see WV or Louisville join the Big Ten
Yours Truly,
Jim Tressel
Posted: December 5, 2007 8:39 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The bcs is nothing but one big blunder. If there was ever a year for a playoff this is it. Take 6major conf champs and 2 at larges (wild cards), seed based on the bcs and let the fun begin.
Posted: December 5, 2007 8:55 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
This article and many of the comments are very funny and bias.

Speed is not the only requirement of a great team. Even though many players on the Ohio State team were high draft picks last year and had plenty of speed. In fact many of Ohio State players have done well over the years at the NFL level.

Many people forget The Big 10 was 2-1 against the SEC last year and have held their own over the years playing SEC teams.

Everyone seems to forget Ohio State defeated Miami (great speed) in the National Championship which beat Florida and Florida State that year if I remember correctly.
Since Nebraska beat Florida so badly in the Championship game in the 90's does that mean their conference is superior?
I certainly have to give Florida credit last year. They won the game and certainly earned it but to say Florida or the SEC is now dominate is an uneducated fan to say the least.
Posted: December 5, 2007 10:08 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The comical reality of the BCS is that a subpar Illinois team gets to go to a BCS bowl because Ron Zook coached a career game and beat an over-rated Ohio State team. (Not that anyone in Columbus is complaining - anyone remember that this is a rebuilding year there?) Kansas will be exposed again. Do you want to watch some football? - watch the Cotton Bowl and see Mizzou and Arkansas. Want to see a blowout? Watch USC run up the score on Illinois. Want to see another blowout? Watch KU line up against a ranked oppionent for only the second time this year...
Posted: December 6, 2007 11:03 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
It's funny that the BCS gets the blame for this year's matchup, when both the AP Poll and the Coach's Poll also have Ohio State ranked #1 and LSU ranked #2.
Posted: December 6, 2007 2:07 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
They will change the BCS format before long, because the SEC will probably win the championship for the next 20 years. And, yes, GA might even get one of those. Go Vols!
"You complain about the 2005 Auburn team missing their chance to play for the title, and also mention how the SEC will yet again prove their dominance over the Big Ten this year. Hey, here's an update from 2006: Wisconsin soundly defeated that 2005 Auburn team in the Capital One bowl. So, not only does YOUR OWN EXAMPLE prove that BCS got it right, but it also disproves the SEC dominance over the Big Ten."

Ummm. You are an idiot. Auburn went undeafeted in the regular and soundly beat Viginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl that year. LAST year, Auburn lost to Wisconsin. That was not the same Auburn team that went undefeated...

Wisconsin wouldn't have stood a chance against the '04/'05 Auburn squad, and USC/Auburn should have been the matchup.
Posted: December 6, 2007 10:43 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
USC and college football fans remembering the 2004 ordeal have got to somehow persuade themselves that if you don't bring home the Crystal Trophy then you were not the Champions of College Football.
"SEC dominance over the Big Ten"

The SEC was 1-3 vs. the Big Ten last year, and haven't had a winning head to head record vs. them since 2001 and that's the only time since the BCS started(10 years) that they did. How is that dominance?
"There's a reason there are 5 Little 11 teams in this years
's bowls because like Ohio St. they too play no one. And for all you idiot Big Ten fans who want to use last year's 1-2 stats (Sec v. Little 11) why don't you look at history"

First off the Big Ten WON 3 out of 4 vs. the sec and HISTORY shows that the Big Ten has a winning record vs. the sec so thanks for showing your ignorance and your lack of history
Posted: December 7, 2007 2:27 AM   by Anonymous DAWGGONEIT
Why have BCS rankings if #1 & #2 drop the last weekend and the other teams don't move up. Georgia did not win it's division because of a loss to Tennesee who beat Kentucky in 4 Overtimes (somehow that has not been mentioned). The SEC constantly knocks themselves out. I am looking forward to the matchup against Hawaii as they have an explosive offense. Dawgs are young and will be back. I said it's Great To Be A Georgia Bulldog!
Posted: December 7, 2007 8:18 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
LSU and OSU, put 'em together and you get LOS U suckers. Give Hawaii a chance. Screw schedules, they beat everyone they played. Everyone is touting how great the Patriots are because they are undefeated and they have barely beat some real marginal teams lately (with the aid of some Christmas like officiating). OSU will embarass itself and the Big Ten again because they have been sitting on their butts for a month (not their fault) and LSU will be the greatest team (with two freakin' losses). Teams that have not played in a month have not gotten better, OSU out Hawaii in, LSU out ANYBODY else in. (By the by I am a disgruntled Michigan fan and if Les wants to snub us, screw him!)
Posted: December 7, 2007 10:23 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I just thought about this, who gives a crap what you SEC fans think! We are in the title game, AGAIN! Keep making fun of our schedule, it doesn't matter. Why? We are in the title game AGAIN! Just so you know we tried to schedule a big home game and nobody wanted to play us so the Little schools take the $. We have USC, Oklahoma and Miami in the future. We back down from nothing. Why don't you spoiled hillbillies come up North in November and play some football? O because your a bunch of warm weather babies. If OSU invited ANY TEAM in the cry baby SEC up here to play us in November you would tuck your tail between your legs and run. It's the same reason USC plays ND at ND in Sept and Oct. but when it's at USC they'll agree to play at the end of the season. So you all keep crying. Keep predicting a blowout. Complain about the system even though the top 3 big ten teams have to travel to the home states of the teams they play in bowls. Keep being SEC fans. It doesn't matter. We are in the National Championship Game, Again. Cry Babies.
Posted: December 7, 2007 12:58 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I think the biggest BCS Blunder is the continued choice of tradition. Since the BCS the best Rose Bowl games included Texas in 05 and 06, that tells me Illinois was mistake not that they are in the BCS but that they were chosen to go to the Rose Bowl. How about another tradition that stupid Golden Dome, how about these blunders...2001 Fiesta Bowl Notre Dame loses by 32 to Oregon State; 2007 Sugar Bowl Notre Dame loses by 27 to Notre Dame and lets not forget that Ohio State beat Notre Dame in a game that was much more one sided then the scoreboard indicated. Last but not least the biggest BCS blunder is letting the minority continue to rule....ACC, SEC, BIG 12 all have conference Championships, the Pac-10 and Big East play every single team in conference so a true champion is determined. Somehow, someway the Big Ten and Notre Dame continue to dictate things and what all fans have to remember is that these two are driven by the almighty dollar and tradition and not greatness or success on a football field. Between the Big Ten and Notre Dame they are a combined 8-10 (44% Winners)in BCS bowl games, but look at that a different way 18 out of 74 almost 25% which means that almost 1 out of every 4 teams is a Big Ten or Notre Dame team; compare that with the SEC 9-4 (69% Winners)but only 13 out of 74 or 1 out of 6 teams. The Big Ten & Notre Dame combined are the biggest BCS blunder.
Non Georgia, Non SEC, College Football fan!
Posted: December 7, 2007 1:22 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
You're bitter, and it's hilarious. Georgia? Why don't they go ahead and win their conference (or at least make it to the conference championship game) before you bitch about getting left out of the title game. Pathetic. Go Bucks.
Posted: December 7, 2007 1:28 PM   by Anonymous The Legend Killer
FINALLY THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY HAS COME BACK TO THE TITLE GAME! tOSU says shut your mouth and know your roll. What tOSU is gonna to with LSU is... We're gonna take a little trip down Know Your Roll Blvd make that left on Jabroni Drive then check their candy asses into the Smack Down Hotel. If ya smellllalalalalalalalaLA what tOSU is cookin!
Posted: December 8, 2007 11:19 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
KISS - Keep it simple, stoops...lets get a playoff bracket going. All the bowl games are playoff games, with "more prestigious" bowls like the Rose bowl being the finals, the lesser bowls (like the 'Credit Card of the month' bowls) being semi-finals.

Then the winner of say, the Rose Bowl and the say, Aunt Jemima's Homestyle Syrup Bowl (forgive me, I do not know the names of the bowls) will meet for the National Championship game.

If they institute a playoff system, then despite a misgiving loss here and there, teams will EARN their way into the playoffs and EARN their way into a national title shot.

Do that and I'll start paying attention to college sports, buy tons of UGA gear and GT gear, buy NCAA '09 for my xbox, etc.

And those of you against it? Why? Are you afraid your precious OSU and Michigan and yankee teams might lose out to some of our SEC southern boys?

There is no justification NOT to have a playoff system. Only teams who got lucky with their schedules fear playoffs. They're afraid they'll be showed up by a team who had to go through eight other teams in a playoff system.

Time for to take the cowards out of college football and make a playoff system. Then no more bickering about who SHOULD have been in the national game.

If you can't beat your opponents in the playoffs, then you don't deserve the spot!!! No bickering about who should have been voted in.

I don't think we'll hear the Dolphins whining about not being in the Super Bowl because they weren't voted in, now will we?
LSU will show it's dominance over OSU???


Let's break down this matchup...

QBs- Tie

HB - OSU (Seriously have you seen Beanie Wells, and LSU, OSU has a secret weapon named Brandon Saine they've saved for you all year)

WRs- Tie

TE- Tie

O-Line- OSU (best in the nation)

D-Line- OSU (Ya Ya Dorsey, w/e, how he won any awards this year I'll never know. George Selvie of USF deserved every one. Anyway OSU has 2 future 1st round picks on that line Vernon Gholston and Lawrence Wilson who will finally be back)

LBs- OSU (James Laurinaitis, Marcus Freeman, Larry Grant, do i need to say more???)

DBs- LSU (Chevis, Zenon, and Steltz trump the best cover corner in the nation in Malcom Jenkins)

K- OSU (Has Tressel ever lost this category???)

P- TIE


Honestly, I just don't see LSU winning. I've seen both teams play almost every game this year. I saw Ohio State lose to Illinois with the worst referees I've ever seen (no joke, they are actually facing suspension) I also saw LSU try to lose to Tulane and give up 500+ yards to Arkansas. I just think OSU matches up much better and will be the most determined team coming into the game.
Posted: December 8, 2007 6:12 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Georgia lost to a 6 - 6 team at home and then was blown out by a team who could not beat LSU.

Do I think LSU deserves to be in the title game? No!

The whole thing is messed up. Think about it. LSU was ranked 7th...yes, 7th! just a week ago. Now, yes, two teams in front of them lost allowing them to move up two more. But how in the world does a touchdown victory over an average Tennessee team get you to jump over three others?

Of course, in this season of wild and wacky wins, noone was going to be happy.

This is all the more reason for a playoff. Do away with the late starting teams. Have everyone start at the same time and do away with the conference championship game. Instead, start a playoff around December 1st for a sweet 16 playoff. By the end of December, you have your championship game set. And you can still have all the meaningless Wendy's Turkey Hamburger Bowl if you like.

All the talk about extra games, etc...blah blah blah...From high school to the pros, NCAA Division I football...or whatever they wish to call it today, is the only one without a playoff.
Posted: December 8, 2007 8:29 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
What about 2003 when Oklahoma was beat soundly by Kansas State in the Big 12 championship, was still selected to go the Championship, only to get pounded again!
Posted: December 9, 2007 10:47 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Lang, you don't get to complain about Georgia not playing for a title, and then call out Nebraska for doing the same thing. I think you're right about Nebraska that year, but you have to apply the same logic to Georgia now. Also, the Auburn team from your all-powerful, unbeatable SEC got destroyed by Wisconsin in their bowl game that year, thereby proving that the voters got it right.
Posted: December 9, 2007 9:44 PM   by Anonymous ttuwr83
LSU-Ohio State game is disappointing. What ever happened to Mizzou? They beat both Illinois and Kentucky and Are NOT GOING TO A BCS game.
Posted: December 10, 2007 8:58 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Wow, is this just some Georgia fan off the street, he let his bias get in the way of making sense. He wants Georgia in the title game, then he lists Nebraska as one of the biggest blunders for making it despite not winning their conference or division. If Georgia went this year the BCS would be making that exact "Blunder"!
Of this nonsense is expected, when someone writes in their article "At least the SEC will get to prove its dominance over the Big 10 yet again" he is obviously bias and not concerned with honest analysis. Its obvious his only concern is to put down other teams and conferences while complaining that his own doesn't get enough respect.
Well how about you look as some facts, every year one loss teams go to the national title, the SEC has one of the teams. This is the first year the big 10 ever got a 1 loss team in the national title, but thats not a big deal anymore since the SEC actually snuck a 2 loss team in!!
If you think this years title game is the #1 BCS blunder then why don't you suggest what this years match up should be for the title game?? Please, show me a better match up....
Posted: December 10, 2007 9:08 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
"The Big Ten & Notre Dame combined are the biggest BCS blunder.
Non Georgia, Non SEC, College Football fan!"

Look at the real facts, the big 10 is 8-7 in BCS games, thats above 0.500 winning percentage so I think you'd have a pretty tough time arguing that they are the biggest BCS blunder. You can't just add in Notre Dame's terrible BCS game record with the big 10's to make the combined record below 0.500 and claim the big 10 sucks, that makes no sense??? Look at Big 12 and ACC BCS records if you want to know what conferences have struggles in BCS games.
It would be more apporpriate to lable yourself a Non Georgia, Non SEC, Big 10 hatter who is completely biased again them!
Posted: December 10, 2007 3:41 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Anytime Notre Dame makes in into a BCS game it is a blunder!
Posted: December 10, 2007 8:57 PM   by Anonymous lang, you dont know football
arsenal 03-04???? hahaha. you have no idea about football. how can they be a top 5 ALL TIME TEAM when they didnt even win the european cup? you would have been better off saying barcelona in 2006 or manchester united 1999 even though its still a stretch. at least those teams won the european cup to go along with their league title.
I definitely agree that this year's championship is the worst! Seriously, let's just give the championship to the New England Patriots--nobody in the NCAA deserves it. And I think we ought to give Tom Brady the Heisman, too...or else Vince Young in honor of the 2005 season, and just block this terrible year out of memory like the traumatic event it has been.
Posted: December 11, 2007 7:03 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Florida clobbered OSU last year, but Wisconsin and Penn State both beat SEC teams in bowl games. The records the last 5 years are Big Ten 8-6 versus SEC teams in bowls. The record the last 10 years is 13-13. Where exactly is the dominance? Are you going back 15-20 years? If so, that's irrelevant since today's players were not around or were toddlers. Intersting that some SEC fans have selective amnesia regarding games the conference loses.
Posted: December 11, 2007 4:55 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
IT'S FORMATION!!!!!!!!
Posted: December 11, 2007 8:27 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Kansas State in 1998 was the biggest blunder...they go undefeated the whole year lose in 3 ot to Texas A&M in the big twelve championship game and not only drop out of the national championship game they drop out of the bcs, holiday and cotton bowls all the way to the alamo bowl. And get this they finished the year ranked 3rd in the bcs. And five years later k-state destroys number one oklahoma in the big twelve championship game 35-7 and oklahoma still goes to the national championship game.
Posted: December 12, 2007 8:57 PM   by Anonymous JFJ
To those whining about Notre Dame not winning the National Championship in 1993 even though they beat Florida State on Nov. 13 of that year 31-24, not "handily" as one poster put it, the reasons why are many.

The day Florida State lost to Notre Dame it was #2 beating #1, as a result the two teams trade spots in the rankings.

Now the reasons Notre Dame did not win the 1993 National Championship:

1. The next week newly minted #1 Notre Dame promptly goes out and LOSES to #17 Boston College 41-39 on a last second 41 yard field goal. The same day now #2 Florida State ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS unranked North Carolina State 62-3. As a result, Florida State returns to #1 and Notre Dame drops to #5.

2. At the end of the 1993 regular season the Bowl Coalition Standings are as follows: #1 Nebraska, #2 Florida State, #3 West Virginia, #4 Florida and #5 Notre Dame.

3. At the end of the 1993 regular season the AP poll has Florida State #1 Nebraska #2 and West Virginia #3. The Coaches poll has Nebraska #1, West Virginia #2 and Florida State #3. The only way Florida State can win an outright National Championship is to beat Nebraska in the Orange Bowl and have Florida beat West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl.

4. New Year's Day 1994 arrives and Florida State beats Nebraska 18-16 in the Orange Bowl while Florida obliterates West Virginia 41-7 in the Sugar Bowl. Earlier that day in the Cotton Bowl, Notre Dame struggles to win 24-21 over a vastly overrated Texas A&M team (the Aggies had only played one game including the Cotton Bowl outside the state of Texas all season: a 44-14 loss in Norman, Oklahoma). Florida State's final record: 12 wins, 1 loss. Notre Dame's final record: 11 wins, 1 loss.

5. As a result of the games played on New Year's Day 1994 Florida State finishes outright #1; Nebraska finishes outright #3; West Virginia finishes #6 in the Coaches'poll and #7 in the AP poll; Florida finishes #4 in the Coaches' poll and #5 in the AP poll; and Texas A&M, overrated as they are, finishes #8 in the Coaches' poll and #9 in the AP poll.

Where was Notre Dame? Right where they should have been: outright #2.
Posted: December 14, 2007 1:20 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
My biggest BCS blunder was 2002 when Joey Harrington led the Ducks to a 1 loss season. Yet Nebraska became the first team ever to play in a national title game after losing there last game of the season. We ended up playing 2 loss Colorado who happened to be the sexy team at the time and Joey went out there and lit them up and we finished number 2 at the end of the season in the rankings.
Posted: December 14, 2007 5:45 PM   by Anonymous Stone Cold
Legend Killer, I'll tell what LSU's gonna do! LSU's gonna roll into New Orleans, pull into The Smackdown Hotel, check into room 3:16, and burn that son of a gun to the ground!

And that's the bottom line... cause Stone Cold said so!
Posted: December 16, 2007 10:17 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Missouri got screwed because of their fans, not the team. No one wants those vandals anywhere near their bowl game.
Posted: December 16, 2007 10:19 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Kansas has a better schedule than one of many Ohio State Universities. Both 1 loss teams. Kansas deserves the title game more than OSU, and that's not saying much.
Posted: December 17, 2007 12:42 AM   by Anonymous Anonymous
to the second poster, you need to do a little more homework before you shoot your mouth off. the undefeated Auburn team beat Virginia Tech that year in the sugar bowl to go 13-0. It was the next year that Auburn lost to Wisconsin in the capital one bowl. I should know, I live in Orlando, and I was at the game. WAR EAGLE!!!
Posted: December 24, 2007 9:37 AM   by Anonymous heading to New Orleans
It always amazes me to listen to you "so called experts" breakdown the college season, especially when it comes to Ohio State. I'm sure you and your buddies planned all night cram sessions coming up with new and improved scenario's knocking OSU out. Look at it this way, THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR for you and the rest of the Georgia Peach nation. Win your games OR SHUT UP.
Posted: December 28, 2007 4:30 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
I'm SOOOO sick of hearing about how badly the 2005 Auburn team got robbed by the BCS. Why is it that an undefeated Auburn team should have automatically gotten in over undefeated USC and Oklahoma?

Calling this a BCS "blunder" is a joke: only two teams can be in the championship game, and there were three deserving teams. By definition, one of them HAD to get left out. Stop crying, USC would have slaughtered them anyway...
Posted: February 10, 2008 2:34 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
Hey wait a minute.

In 2000 UM BEAT Number ranked FSU, who only dropped a few spots, then, withthe same record and very similar schedules, FSU was allowed to play in the ch. Um was totally ripped off, after an obvious head to head win.

The BCS changed its goofy formula after that season. UM should have been allowed to play Ok. and the outcome would have been different.

Next in line, The rip off of the 2002 national ch. the BCS was stolen from UM by a corrupt referee. No question it was a horrendous call. Look at it in slo mo, super slo mo or whatever angle-it was a blown call.
Posted: February 12, 2008 7:42 PM   by Anonymous JFJ
Why was Florida State chosen for the BCS Title game over Miami in January of 2001, even though FSU lost to Miami head to head?

Three words: Strength of Schedule.

Miami's schedule (they were still in the Big East at the time):
McNeese State, Washington, West Virginia, Rutgers, FSU, Temple, Louisiana Tech, Virginia Tech, and Boston College.

Miami's record: 10-1 (Loss to Washington)

Non-Conference games: McNeese State, Washington, FSU, Louisiana Tech

Bowl teams played: 5. (Washington, West Virginia, FSU, Virginia Tech, Boston College.

Non BCS conference opponents: McNeese State (1-AA), Louisiana Tech (Sun Belt)

Florida State's schedule: BYU, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Louisville, Maryland, Miami, Duke, Virginia, North Carolina State, Clemson, Wake Forest, and Florida.

Florida State's record 11-1 (Loss to Miami)

Non-Conference games: BYU, Louisville, Miami, Florida

Bowl teams played: 7 (Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, Virginia, North Carolina State, Clemson, and Florida.

Non BCS conference opponents: BYU (Mountain West) and Louisville (Conference USA)


Miami: champions of a weak Big East Conference

Florida State: champions of a strong ACC

This is why Florida State and not Miami played Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. Would the result have been any different? We'll never know.
Posted: February 26, 2008 5:49 PM   by Anonymous JFJ
In my previous post, I inadvertently omitted Pittsburgh and Syracuse from Miami's schedule. There was no slight intended against either team. The inclusion of these teams would raise Miami's number of bowl teams played that season to 6, as Pittsburgh played in the Insight.Com bowl that year.

Everything else is factually correct.

One thing I could have added is that Miami played 7 conference games and Florida State played 8.
Posted: March 19, 2008 3:09 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
The 2004-2005 Season at Auburn and then getting left out of the National Title game. I'm not saying they could have beat USC, but Oklahoma never was even in it.
Posted: March 19, 2008 3:20 PM   by Anonymous Anonymous
First of all it was the 2004 Auburn team who got left out of the National Championship and they played Virginia Tech (they did lose to Wis. but not that year) on Jan 3 2005 and won 16-13.
You mention Nebraska getting picked ahead of COLORADO??

Please tell me you're kidding - Oregon drilled the Buffs in the Fiesta bowl that year.

How about some love for the Ducks???
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