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3/26/2008 11:05:00 AM
Coaches who should be let go
This has been the expression on the faces of most Knicks fans during Isiah Thomas' tenure.
By Lang Whitaker, SI.com
Whether or not Donnie Walsh becomes the new general manager of the New York Knicks, pretty much every New Yorker agrees that the Isiah Thomas coach/GM era needs to come to an end. In his dual role, Thomas has run up one of the league's highest payrolls while simultaneously compiling a breathtaking 52-100 record as coach. Obviously, it's not working out. At the same time, Isiah's still going out there every night and giving it a shot, to the detriment of Knicks fans everywhere.
Here are our top five coaches who need to be relieved of their duties...
1. Isiah Thomas: I'd keep him only if he was in charge of college scouting and the NBA Draft. Otherwise, to paraphrase the lovely ladies of The Hills, Isiah should be dunzo.
2. Herm Edwards: If I had to hire someone to give me a speech and get me fired up before work every morning, Herm would be my guy. If I was hiring a football coach, Herm probably would not be my guy.
3. Ron Washington: Sure, he's only had one year in Texas, but he managed to start beef with Mark Teixeira and finish a dozen games under .500. And he got his contract extended for another year. Nice work if you can get it.
4. Mike Nolan: I like that he tries to wear suits and stuff, but he's 16-32 as an NFL head coach. That's not getting it done.
5. Bill Self: The Kansas coach has his team in the Sweet 16 yet again, and he's known for assembling amazingly talented rosters and piling up regular season wins. He's been to the NCAA Tournament nine consecutive years, but until he gets past the Elite 8, many fans will want the promise of something better.
Which coach would you like to see let go? Let us know below...
Lang Whitaker is the executive editor of SLAM magazine and writes daily at SLAMonline.com
As a general manager he's been a disaster. Building talent: Brad McCrimmon should be a head coach by now but he's not Waddell's boy, he was a Hartley partisan, and pays for it by having to stand next to that buffoon on the bench night after night. Draft: Dany Heatley (who had obvious character issues) and Patrik Stefan (nuff said). Forwards: Couldn't keep Marc Savard, gave big bucks to Ray Ferraro in the "Me First" phase of his career; lost Donald Audette and Andrew Brunette to bungling, but held on to Per Svartvadet three years too long; Defensemen: gave up on Joe Di Penta, Braydon Coburn, Frank Kaberle, Brian Pothier, Mike Weaver, Kurtis Foster, Stve Staios, but thought Uwe Krupp, Alexei Zhitnik, and Jaroslav Modry were excellent additions. Go back to the expansion draft: Dennis Vial, Mark Tinordi. Goalies: Damien Rhodes, Norm Maracle, Pasi Nurminen, Byron Dafoe, and his idea of a "goalie coach" is Steve Weekes, who is still around because he's hermetically sealed onto Waddell's backside. The Marian Hossa fiasco: "I don't care how much money you offer -- I've got enough money, and you guys aren't going to win anything." Even Team USA couldn't play with him picking players and coaches. It's been ten years and they have fewer playoff appearances (and no wins) than the Falcons during that time. Ticket prices are up, the team's standings are down, the players want to quit, and it's tough watching a player we've come to respect, Ilya Kovalchuk, looking like he wants to hang himself every night. I liked Waddell at first; he went out of his way to connect with the fan base; but during the first season, when they traded for Hnat Domenichelli without bothering to find out if he had a US work permit, we all should have known.
I won't bring up the genuine hand-carved solid oak toupee.
There are two people in Atlanta who played one career NHL game: Waddell, and the ECHL team's assistant coach, Cam Brown. I'd say Cam Brown has a brighter future in hockey at this point. Waddell made his bones building the Orlando Solar Bears in the IHL. They were dirty on the ice and never managed an NHL affilliation. WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!!!!!
I think that Danny Maciocia should be fired by the Edmonton Eskimos. The Eskimos, one of only two remaining community owned teams in the CFL, are a proud organization with equally proud fans who hold the team to a high standard. With another team a coach who had won the championship as recently as 2005 would be untouchable. With the Eskimos, however, it is unforgivable that they have missed the playoffs the last two years straight. That makes three times in my lifetime that my great team has failed to reach the playoffs. On a team that includes such names as Johnny Bright, Warren Moon, Dave Cutler, Jackie Parker, and Brian Kelly such performances year after year are simply unacceptable.
Isiah in charge of the draft? So he got lucky with Balkman and David Lee. But don't forget this is also the guy who decided(as the Pacers Head Coach) at the last minute to ignore Donnie Walsh's reccomendation and pick Fred Jones over Tayshaun Prince.
Bill Self? What in God's name is his name doing on a list of coaches that should be fired? The man has won four consecutive conference championships, has an 81% winning percentage the last 5 years, and is excellent at recruiting, developing players, and in-game coaching. Just because he's suffered two first round upsets and hasn't been able to get over the Elite Eight hump doesn't make him deserving of unemployment. If this column were written two years you would have recommended firing Billy Donovan, who had a terrible tournament record and a much worse regular season record than Bill Self.
Pretty sure Weber took Self's team to the Championship game and only 2 losses. Self couldn't do anything with that U of I squad except assemble them. The best thing about Self going to KU is that I despise them so much, it is good to know they cant win a Nat'l Championship while he is there.
Kevin McHale is a no-brainer addition to your list. Trading Roy for Foye, Ray Allen for Marbury, Cassell and a first-round pick for Jaric, long-term deal for Troy Hudson, drafting Ndudi Ebe (?) - Where does it end?!?!
Rich Rodriguez......Players are leaving his program, getting sued by former employer, can't land the big recruit, and is bringing a gimmicky carnival offense to a (former) storied program that WAS known for cultivating pro quarterbacks and recievers.
Enjoy the single T option, Michigan Community College!
Matt Millen....has no idea how to draft, has no idea how to hire a successful coach, has no idea how to WIN!!
Millen was a great player, and it's unfortunate that success went to his head and he allowed himself to believe he would be a good GM/Player developer. He needs to be ousted, if for nothing else, to resurrect a loyal fan base!
Mike Nolan He is an arrogant egotistical incompetent, who along the Yorks is ruining a great franchise. The great past players and the fans are staying away in droves. Sounds like an organization that wants to move. The 49ers are the most boring team in the NFL to watch now. Nolan can't even cheat right as they get penalized for tampering with a player they say they never wanted. O well at least he has one less draft pick to screw up, i.e. V. Davis, A. Smith etc. although he did get Willis right.
Nolan is a good coach though, the 49ers shouldve looked like the Jags last season. But the OC left for the Chargers in the last minute, too late to find a good OC and too late for the offense to learn new terminology. Plus the passing of Bill Walsh and commemorating him with the BW helmet sticker hyped up the teams who played against a team with astounding influence on the way the game is played today. Oh and Nolan and continued his suit deal through the season added to the fire (unlike Delrio who quit after teams were to hyped up against him). The next thing you know week 4 your starting QB is down and your OC is flippin out because all the Defense does is blitz 8-9 guys every down. I dont think Nolan is going to get fired that easily.
In defense of Mike Nolan, he inherited the worst team in the league, one that had a dysfunctional front office, a talent deprived roster and an owner who was learning how to run a frnachise on the fly. The drafting prior to Nolan, circa Terry Donahue, was horrendous - Rashaun Woods, et al. The drafting was so poor that the 49ers do not even have a first round selection that survived on the team for the last 6 years. Give him one more year before you levy the axe.
Millen is a GM, you should read the title carefully befor posting it says "Coaches who should be let go" (Although I would have to agree on canning Milling...He is running the Lions further and further into the ground)
Ron Prince -- Football Coach at Kansas State. He took a once proud football program and made it a joke in the Big 12. All of his assistants are rats leaving the sinking ship, The Athletic Director bailed becuase he was responsible for hiring Prince and that absurdity -- Frank Martin. He talks about strengthening the schedule and now he wants to breach a contract with Fresno State becuase the non-conference schedule is just too hard.
Say goodbye to larry loser,i mean legend he can,t draft and his trades are insane. The guys out of touch with todays game. Should have got rid of J O while he was worth ANYTHING. Thanks for the bad memories
why is Self on this list? even without the win against davidson. he's been a hell of a coach for tulsa, illinois, and kansas. he's just not been fortunate to have that championship calibar team, until the last couple years. we'll have to see how he fars against ole roy.
As a Kansas fan, I am offended by seeing Bill Self on this list. I cannot believe that you have overlooked his success with the highest winning percentage at KU, even higher than good ol' Roy had during his tenure, not to mention his 4 straight conference titles and 3 straight conference tournament titles. While I realize that you are judged by your Final Fours and Natl. Titles, Self has represented KU with nothing but class and done an incredible job at bringing in top talent and getting them to buy into the team concept, burying their egos for the good of the team. I can only hope that come Saturday night, all of Jayhawk Nation sees just how much better off they are under Self.
Hey people, While I do agree with every GM and owner listed, THIS is about coaches and not GM's and owners. The poster boy for living on borrowed time has to be Isaiah. He was a great player but what's happened in New York has really hurt his legacy.
My choice would have to be John Gibbons of the Blue Jays. Not only has he lost the respect of his clubhouse, but he's been given a far better team of talent (and payroll) of any recent BJ manager and he hasn't been able to get the job done. I know their in a tough division, but expect him to be fired before the end of the year.
Ron Washington? Give the guy a break - he works for the worst owner in pro sports and the team really seemed to respond to him during the second half of the season. As for teixeira, there was no way was staying in arlington.
How can you have one of the best shooting guards in Al Iverson, a budding all star (though overated) in Carmello Anthony, the reigning defensive player of the year Marcus Camby, the elusive Kenyon Martin who's having a great turn around year ,and Nene, Anthony Carter, Lines Kleiza, and a three point specialist in JR Smith and a solid force in Najera and still end up struggling to make the playoffs, regardless of the 50 wins they'll have this season.
kansas fans need to relax, you live in a state of nothing. cornfields and farms. you havn't won anything since danny manning, youhave no pro hoops, your baseball team is minor league at best. (k.c royals.) your nfl teams can't draft or win even with priest and/or joe montana, no hockey. you guys cry too much and your coaches should all be fired everyone for living in that state. long live texas. longhorns!!!!