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3/28/2007 08:45:00 AM
Ranking the "Frat Pack" movies
Jon Heder and Will Ferrell play rival figure skaters in Blades of Glory, opening March 30.
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Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughn, Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson and Luke Wilson have formed a clique so powerful that girls I went to high school with would be jealous of it. The group dubbed the "Frat Pack" have dominated comedies for the past six years or so, and they're about to release a new one.
Ferrell's Blades of Glory, a movie about rival figure skaters, co-starring Napoleon Dynamite's Jon Heder, comes out on Friday. Also making an appearance in the film, to no one's surprise, is Luke Wilson. It seems that none of the guys in this posse can be in a movie without another one of the other "fratters" making at least a cameo.
In honor of Ferrell's newest movie, I thought it would be fun to look at the recent comedies involving this group and ranking them from best to worst, and then getting your take. Using the guideline that at least two of the Frat Pack had to be in the movie (which eliminates Talladega Nights, which was not bad, not great.), here is the list I came up with:
(One side note: It's interesting to see that this group has an affinity for "sports" movies. I put sports in quotes because personally, I don't consider any of these flicks sports movies. Blades of Glory, Dodgeball, Kicking & Screaming and Talladega Nights are comedies, not sports movies. But I'm glad everyone puts these flicks in the "sports" genre because then I have a reason to discuss with you.)
OK, on to the list. Be sure to send me your rankings when you're done reading mine.
(WARNING: There are a ton of YouTube links to clips from the movies throughout the blog. Most, if not all of them, contain profanity. So if you're at work, plug in the headphones or turn down the volume a little bit.)
1. Old School (Ferrell, Vaughn, Luke Wilson): A no-brainer for No. 1. This was a classic from start to finish. Old School is known as Ferrell's breakout film, thanks to the lovable, yet psychotic Frank the Tank character, but there were many other memorable performances. Vaughn brought many big laughs, highlighted by the earmuffs scene. Jeremy Piven, pre-Ari in Entourage, was great as the villainous dean, and Sean William Scott made the most of a very brief role. And any movie with American Pie's Scott (except for Dukes of Hazzard) is OK in my book.
2. Wedding Crashers (Owen Wilson, Vaughn, Ferrell): I hated the last third of this movie, when it turned into The Young and the Restless. But the first two-thirds, especially the middle, was so funny that it still ranks No. 2. Ferrell's cameo was a surprise, and it was the only good thing about the end of the movie, thanks to his repeated demands for meatloaf. Wilson was fine as the sensitive guy. But the real showstopper was Vaughn, who did his best work since Swingers. His performance in the middle of this movie (from the touch football game, to getting his knee fixed up, to the brother coming on to him to his rant the next morning) was top-notch. And thanks to the must-read biglead.com, I'm reminded that Vaughn's character coined the current in phrase "make it rain" long before Pacman Jones.
3. Meet the Parents (Stiller, Owen Wilson): The highlight of this movie is Robert DeNiro showing off his comedic skills, highlighted by the volleyball scene(You gotta spike that, Focker!). But Wilson's role in this movie is underrated. The scene in which he refers to Jesus Christ as "JC" always makes me laugh. And even though Stiller mainly plays Ben Stiller, he was still funny.
4. Starsky & Hutch (Stiller, Owen Wilson, Vaughn, Ferrell): This is an underrated movie. The interrogation scene is a classic that had me rolling the first time I saw it. There's also a danceoff. How bad can a movie be when it has a danceoff? Lastly, Carmen Electra and Amy Smart make out in this movie. I rest my case.
5. Dodgeball (Stiller, Vaughn): I don't know many people who are fans of this flick, but I am. I'm such a Vaughn fan that I pretty much find anything he does funny (except for The Break Up), and his role in this movie -- as a slacker who needs to organize a Dodgeball team to save his gym -- is no exception. And as I touched on earlier, I think any Ben Stiller movie is better when he's playing a wild character, which he does in Dodgeball, and not Ben Stiller, a la Along Came Polly.
6. Zoolander (Stiller, Owen Wilson, Ferrell, Vaughn): I didn't get this movie at all. I know people who love it, and while I did laugh a few times, I thought it was dumb more than funny.
7. Anchorman (Ferrell, Luke Wilson, Stiller, Vaughn): OK, here's where I'm going to become Public Enemy No. 1 with most of you. I hated this movie. I didn't laugh once, and found it almost painful to sit through. Many people, including SI.com NFL producer and a staple of Dr. Z's mailbag, Andrew Perloff, says that I have to watch it again, and it gets funnier. Maybe he's right, but I don't know if I have it in me.
8. Night at the Museum (Stiller, Owen Wilson): I didn't see it, and don't plan to, so I can't comment, but if any of you saw it, let me know.
So, here are my questions for you guys: How would you rank these films? And do you consider yourself a Ferrell person or a Vaughn person? I'm a Vaughn guy. The movies he's carried -- Dodgeball and Wedding Crashers -- are better than the movies Ferrell has carried -- Anchorman, Kicking & Screaming and Talladega Nights. They both carried Old School, so it's a draw on that one.
sorry...anchorman...best frat pack movie of all time...too many memorable quotes...ferrell at his best..and its true it takes at least 2 views to sink in...even vaughn is funny in it....old school is definatly number 2....
I don't get the whole Vaughn/Ferrell thing. Maybe I'm showing my age (50) but they're just not laugh out loud funny movies. And I've seen most of the ones you've listed. I've been told I have a warped sense of humor so maybe I just heard so much build up surrounding those films that no matter how good they were I wouldn't be satified
I'm sorry, but you officially eliminated yourself from having any credibility to rank these movies whatsoever by putting Anchorman at number 7. You saw it coming, and your list sucks for this very reason.
My bad on The Royal Tenenbaums. I should've mentioned it. I didn't see it, so I'm curious to hear what you guys thought of it. So far, the comments have been mostly positive, so I'll make it a point to watch it soon.
1. Old School - the most quotable movie since "Swingers." For those who never noticed, right after the guy asks the question in the debate and Ferrell says, "I got this one," if you listen really close you can hear Vaughn say, "I think we're done, I think this one's over." This is probably the funniest part of the movie. You have to listen for it if you've never noticed it. 2. Anchorman - The most quotable movie since "Old School." 3. Wedding Crashers 4. Zoolander 5. Dodgeball - The alternate, original ending on the DVD is amazing. 6. Meet The Parents - Too painful to watch and Stiller sucks. 7. Starsky & Hutch (A Night at the Museum doesn't count. Vaughn or Ferrell wouldn't be caught dead in this movie.)
Pretty accurate...Old School and Wedding Crashers are awesome. Also agree with you about Zoolander. That movie was funny how?
That said, you're completely wrong about Anchorman. The "gang" fight by itself made that movie worth it ("Brick killed a guy!"). Also, while Talladega Nights wasn't Ferrell's best, it was still pretty solid and had some great moments. All in all though, you're pretty right-on.
1. Old School 2. Wedding Crashers 3. Anchorman 4. Dodgeball
I will not rank the other movies since they were not anywhere near the four above. Starsky and Hutch had its good parts, but I don't want to see it again. Royal Tennenbaums I couldn't make it through since I never laughed. Meet the Parents was bad. Zoolander had to be turned off after 15 minutes and I have not met anyone, in person, who has liked the film. Tie between Vaughn and Ferrell, I did like Luke better than Owen until Wedding Crashers but they are now even, and Stiller is pretty annoying and not funny.
I actually rank Dodgeball ahead of Old School. Dodgeball was directed by the demented soul who brought us the Terry Tate Nike ads (Rawson Marshall Thurber).
I had the pleasure of interviewing Vince Vaughn for the movie Be Cool and asked him about the frat pack. His response was classic: "Yeah, where are those guys now for this movie... nowhere to be found, left me high and dry." I guess Vince wasn't a big fan of that flick.... much like the general public.
First off, Vaughn and Ferrell are different kinds of funny. One of my favorite Vaughn movies is Made. Whereas, one of my favorite Ferrell movies is Anchorman - both of which are nowhere near the top on my list. So, here it goes...
1)Old School: Gotta give it to you. This movie is the definition of funny.
2)Wedding Crashers: I even agree with the last 1/3rd part...terrible. Except for Ferrell's windsurfing, meatloaf, and nunchuck comments.
3)Starsky and Hutch
4)Anchorman: You have to watch it 5 times before everything just becomes funny. I'm with you - I didn't laugh but a few times in the theater. Now, I laugh my arse off at facial expressions and the word "Yazz Flute."
5)Zoolander: Same as above. Stupid, stupid, and more stupid that must be watched multiple times. "It has to be at least....three times bigger than this!"
6)Royal Tennenbaums: Makes my list because both Wilsons and Stiller are in this. Although it's totally different, still one of my faves that has Frat Packers in it.
7)Rushmore: Same as above, but without Stiller. However, Schwartzman is in it and is hilarious...as well as Bill Murray.
8)Cable Guy: Must see it a couple of times, but has Stiller, O. Wilson, Jack Black and Jim Carrey at his finest.
Missing the cut: Dodgeball, Meet the Parents, Ricky Bobby (still not at 5 times watched yet), and Bottle Rocket (both Wilsons).
Not Good At All: Envy and Kicking and Screaming. Both are terrible.
Royal Tennenbaums is a great movie, but it doesn't fit in really with the rest of the comedies, as it has a much quirkier/artier tone. Anchorman is hilarious, I'd put it below Old School. And Zoolander is a movie that I didn't like much at first, but got funnier each time I saw it so that it's now one of my favorite movies. I think a lot of Will Ferrell's movies are like that...you are not too impressed at first, but then you find yourself obsessed with them. BTW Bottle Rocket is an absolutely amazing film.
Anyone that doesn't appreciate Anchorman is not a true Will Farrell fan. There's nothing wrong with that; it just renders your opinions on Farrell's other works inconsequential...keep thinking that Elf sums up Will's comedic talents.
1. Wedding Crashers 2. Meet The Parents (Due to DeNiro) 3. Dodgeball 4. Zoolander 5. Old School 6. Anchorman 7. Starsky & Hutch Didn't see Night at Museum. Royal Tenenbaums has a large cast with a relatively minor frat pack influence. Top 6 are actually all pretty close - Starsky & Hutch was abysmal. Vaughn is a better comic, Ferrel is a better actor.
Vaughn is funnier than Ferrel and it isn't even close. Old School and Anchorman are two movies I will never understand why people get so excited about. they were funny and had their moments but overall they just didn't work as anything other than movies trying to be quotable. Wedding crashers did start to drag after they were outed as crashers but that was one of the funniest movies I have ever seen. Vaughn's rant with the preacher and when he quizes Wilson about Janes seymours boobs is classic.
1. Old School: Far and away the best part of this movie is when Ferrell comes out on the front porch with the blow up doll, "Nurse or Cheerleader" and Meredith Grey (that is her name) follows with "Nice doll Frank." - "Yeah, she's alright."
2. Wedding Crashers: Underrated part when Hottie McHotterson (Rachel McAdams asks Wilson if Vaughn is ok in the football game. "Your brother's down again" "What is his deal?!"
i would have to say that I am a Ferrell guy, although I do enjoy Vaughn. Ever since Talledega Nights, Ferrell took over the number one. I mostly agree with your list, but I want to know why John C. Reilly doesn't get more roles like these guys( have you ever scene Boogie Nights or Talledega Nights?), the guy is hilarious. Also, another movie you should see is Bottlerocket, its an earlier wilson/wilson film, which also features their other brother Andrew as "Futureman", its not a chart topper, but has some good parts
By the beard of Zeus! Great Oden's raven! Uncle Jacob's corncob pipe!
You, sir, immediately lost all crediblity with me when you relegated Anchorman to the depths of #7 on your pitiful list. Not only is this film the embodiment of what is great about Will Ferrell and his unique brand of childish, moronish humor, but it had memorable lines that will forever live in movie lore. What an amateur effort on your part..truly pathetic.
Your column was an enjoyable read, but like others I have take issue with some of your rankings -- particularly the #7 slot for Anchorman.
It is a movie that grows on you like a fungus with each succesive viewing. The first time I saw it I walked away largely unammused. It really wans't until the third or fourth viewing that I started to catch and appreciate all the stupid subtle moments of physical comedy and one-liners.
Now, I can almost quote the entire movie verbatim (much to my wife's dismay).
Brian Fantana - Time to musk up.
Ron Burgandy - What are going to go with? Lond Gentelman, no, no wait . . . Black Beard's Delight?
Fantana - A special lady gets a special scent. It's called Sex Panther by Odion (he opens the cologne case, the cermaic panther head pops up and emits a growling noise). It's made with real bits of panther, so you know it's good. They've done studies you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works ALL the time.
Burgandy - That doesn't make any sense Brian.
Burgandy (after Fantana applies the cologne) - It's a pungent aroma. It stings the nostrils . . . I'm going to be honest with you Brian, it smells like pure gasoline.
And Zoolander, while not as funny, also has a heaping helping of idiotically funny one-liners too, as does the underrated Dodgeball.
Don't know how you have Anchorman so low, but guess thats just personal preference. I would put it behind only Old School and Wedding Crashers. The best work in the film is done by Steve Carrell (prior to breaking out on The Office and 40 year old virgin) and Paul Rudd...how can you not enjoy the "Octagon" quote.
Most of these movies are too close for me to rank. I hated Anchorman when I saw it in the theaters, but literally fell off the couch laughing when I saw it on DVD. I also loved Zoolander and Dodgeball, which might be my favorite of the group. But I might be biased there, from having worked in various gyms for a few years.
True the so called "Frat Pack" have taken over comedy movies throughout the past years!!
Anchorman has to move to the top of the list it has the most useable funny quotes out of the whole list of movies. The Royal Tenenbaums is a great movie, a must see, and must to be put on your revised list.
Overall a great set of movies, and all have one thing in common you must watch them all a least ten times(except Night at the Museum unless your 10 years old) to fully get all the jokes and appreciate them.
Skip The Royal Tenenbaums. In no way does it fit in with the rest of these films. Not just because it was completely unfunny, and the biggest waste of talent ever assembled on screen (Bill Murray isn't given anything to do). It's because this wasn't a Frat Pack movie, it was a Wes Anderson movie (most overrated director of our time). Rushmore was no where near as humorous as it was hyped to be, and everything Anderson has done since has been garbage.
GAAAAAAAAA... Anchorman is hilarious. You can't tell me you didn't laugh once. What about Steve Carrell as Brick? What about Jack Black punting Baxter? WHAT ABOUT SEX PANTHER?!? You need to watch this in a better mood, while understanding it's tounge in cheek. Will Ferrel says "It's the pleats, they're not very flattering... in the.. crotchal region. I was just about to.. to take them back.. to.. to the Pants Store."
normally i view all your atricles and agree.....but on this one.....your out to left field. Anchorman is the funniest mover that has ever been made....theres not a week that goes by since it has come out where i havent used or heard someone use a quote from it.....get with the program bud.....
Vince Vaughn is no doubt one of the funniest guys on the planet right now. As far as Night at the Museum, I haven't seen it either, but my parents did (and they are in their 50's). My mom can't stand Vaughn or Ferrell and finds Stiller and Owen Wilson mildly funny, and she said that movie was hilarious, so it has got to be good.
And as far as Anchorman and Dodgeball go, while not as good as Wedding Crashers or Old School, they are still hilarious movies. They are very similar to Napoleon Dynamite and Monty Python, the first time you watch it you feel like you've just wasted a few years of your life by sitting on the couch in a numbed state waiting for something funny to happen that didn't. But go back and watch it over, and the more you watch it, the funnier it gets.
Sorry, I got so mad about anchorman I forgot to post my ranking.
1. Old school- clearly one of the funniest movies ever. 2. Anchorman- best Ferrel movie. Period. 3. Starsky and Hutch- Bacardi and Cola, do it. Hey... Do It. 4. Wedding crashers- Possibly Vaughn's best work. (Old school) 5. Dodgeball- Rip torn hits people with heavy wrenches. Enough said. 6. Zoolander- Stupid, but that's the point. 7. Meet the parents- DeNiro saves this movie.
The great thing about Vince Vaughn is that he can do it all. Definately at the top of his game in comedies (He's so money and he doesn't even no it), but he can also be serious every now and then.
Maybe I'm the only person in America who feels this way but I can't stand Ben Stiller. I mean seriously, get him off the screen. His villain in Dodgeball was flat out terrible. A comedic villain should be enjoyable on screen, someone the audience loves to hate (Dr. Evil anyone). I kept waiting for Stiller to get hit by a bus and end the misery.
One person who deserves some love (maybe as a co-conspirator to the FP)is Jason Batemen. He was funny in Starsky (the 70's porn 'stache and the sunblock on the nose gets me) and he was the HIGHLIGHT of Dodgeball as the color man (Pepper). When Gary Cole mentions it is a 2 on 1 and he says "you usually ahve to pay double for that kind of action, Cotton" and "F'n A Cotton! F'n AAAAA!!!" and of course, "Pepper needs a new paor of shorts"
Wow, wow ,wow. Anchorman was rated seventh and Zoolander sixth.................................................... No offense to Jimmy and his so called blog but those are the type of movies that have defined this "Frat Pack" Meet the Parents while being completly hilarious really isnt involved in this group, because if we want to get serious we could include MEet the Tenenbaums ( which meets your criteria) Old School is great, Wedding Crashers is amazing but like you said runs dry, but each film is different then the rest and uniqu as well which creates a ranking system that has no backbone.
Zoolander is unedrrated; Starsky and Hutch was awful. Anchorman definitely takes multiple viewings; the first time I was it I couldn;t wait for it to end but it has grown on me considerebly. I thought Ferrell's part in Wedding Crashers was a lowlight og the movie.
I would put Anchorman right up there with Wedding Crashers as a 2a. It might be the most quotable movie from the last 20 years. Sex Panther, News Team Brawl, Jogging (or yogging, it might be a soft J). David Koechner is brilliant in it! Forget it, you're just not going to understand.
You're right about Starsky and Hutch being underrated.
Does meet the parents really count? It was about Bob DeNiro and Owen Wilson was barely in it.
Gary Cole was soooo funny in Dodgeball!!! I am confused how you could have Starsky and Hutch above Anchorman??? S&H is a funny movie but it's not even close to Anchorman! I agree with Old School getting the nod over Wedding Crasher's but the best scene is Vince Vaughn (Jeremy) asking Owen Wilson (John) if he motorboated that babies!!!
I really do think that 40 Year Old Virgin should be lumped in here. Not only does it have all of the side people from these "Frat Pack" movies (Koechner, Carrell, Rudd, Rogen (who will be huge after Knocked Up comes out)),it is also absolutely hilarious, and consists of a bunch of idiot guys who go out and party. Not to mention all of the one liners...
And never lump in Night at the Museum with 'Frat Pack' movies. A movie needs to be at least PG-13 to be anywhere close to being considered as part of that group. Besides, Wilson was a glorified cameo in it (who was the best part of the movie) and was probably never physically in a scene with Stiller.
Lastly, don't overlook the talent behind the camera as the same few people pop up in the credits for all of the movies in this discussion.
Road Trip has to be asterisked into this group as well...
Most of those movies are great, Old School definitely #1. "What are you doing this weekend". Ferrel, "My wife and I are shopping at Bed, Bath and Beyond". Love it.
However, Royal Tennebaums sucks. Worst movie I have ever seen. If you like to get sick to your stomach it's the movie for you. If you like suicide, depression. It just doesn't fit in with any of these movies. Avoid it like the plague.
"By The Hammer of Thor!" The News Gang battle in Anchor Man is as funny as almost all of the rest of these movies combined. Stiller's best line in any of the movies mentioned is "Como estan, beaches!?!" Then, as mentioned earlier, the part where Brick kills a man is sheer genius. The hardest I've laughed since back in HS with the Penguin in Billy Madison.
Veronica Corningstone: My God, what is that smell? Oh. Brian Fantana: That's the smell of desire my lady. Veronica Corningstone: God no, it smells like, like a used diaper... filled with... Indian food. Oh, excuse me. Brian Fantana: You know, desire smells like that to some people Garth Holliday: What is that? Smells like a turd covered in burnt hair.
I like your list but I must disagree with you when you say Anchorman was bad. Will Ferrel is hysterical in it, not to mention Paul Rudd and Steve Carrel. And you really need to watch Zoolander again, easily one of the funniest movies.
Purple Cobras? Anyone who can slap their thighs and hiss without smiling deserves and oscar. And Rip Torn/Patches makes the movie so much better. Top 3 at least. And it wasn't overlong like some of the other movies.
I pretty much agree with your list though I would have to put Wedding Crashers before Old School. Dodgeball is highly underrated and I didn't get Anchorman either and it was far too painful for me to try and watch it twice.
Also all the hate for Meet the Parents, that I don't get.
OK, my two cent's on the qualifications: the Wes Anderson flicks shouldn't count, because they are a completely different style, though high-quality.
My rankings: 1. Old School - Almost solely b/c of the singer at Frank's wedding. 2. Anchorman - The quotes, man, the quotes! And the news team battle was classic. 3. Wedding Crashers - Vaughn kills me throughout this one. 4. Dodgeball - I hated this at first, but it grew on me. 5. Meet the Parents/Fockers - Lacks Ferrell and Vaughn and entertainment diminishes with subsequent viewings.
you're forgetting to mention another actor in "Pack" who's had some funny roles in these movies--Jason Bateman. His role in Dodgeball is hilarious. Plus, Arrested Development is one of the best shows ever
1. Old School 2. Dodgeball 3. Anchorman 4. Zoolander
Here's the thing about Anchorman...it has so many lines of dialogue that people love to quote. They are non sequitur in everyday life but they just sound funny. Most of these movies have this common element and it's true with a lot of the comedy classics we love to watch over and over again - Animal House, Caddyshack, and even the Marx Bros and Stooges flicks. And I have a feeling "make it rain," may have been inspired by Philip Seymour Hoffman's "let it rain!!!" during the pick-up game in Along Came Polly.
I would definitely have to agree with all those posting about the Royal Tenenbaums, it's one of my top 3 favorite comedies of all time. Anchorman would be two, followed by Wedding Crashers, then Old School, Meet the Parents, Starsky and Hutch, Dodgeball, and the worst, Zoolander. I'd have to say that Vince Vaughn is the funniest actor of the bunch, the motor boat scene in Wedding Crashers had me rolling.
Please I beg you watch Ancor man like two more times. I hated the movie the first time I saw it, and only thought it was okay the second time I saw it. But HBO showed it like a million times and since there is never anything good on TV I watched again. And let me tell you. I know think it is one of the best movies out there. Also do you think there is a SPIN off of the Frat pack. With Steve Coral and all the people in the 40 year old virgin? A lot of them where in Ancor man. Anyway watch it again and it should jump to top 3.
You complete doorknob. Anchorman is the funniest by far. How can you like Old School when they don't even let Artie Lange be funny in it.Dodgeball should be number 2,kind of like your brain on this one.
I'm with you on the top three but I move Zoolander and Anchorman up to my 4 and 5 respectively. I find it interesting that you note a dance off as a reason to give Starsky and Hutch a nod of approval but Zoolander and the runway competition is in my opinion a funnier version of the same thing. Plus the eulogy about dying in a freak gasoline fight accident had me rolling from the start.
Whatever your opinion, you have to rate "Old School" #1; without it's success, the other movies don't get made. "Tenenbaums" doesn't really count, it's a wes anderson movie, not a Frat Pack movie, dispite the Stiller/Wilsons involvement (it is fantastic, btw). And i'm not one to tell somebody they're wrong, but Anchorman is genius. pure genius. i don't even know where to begin with that one.
1. Old School 2. Anchorman 3. Wedding Crashers 4. Dodgeball (c'mon dude, the 'Hoff, the Shat, and Chuck Norris? you can't beat that) 5. Zoolander 6. Starsky and Hutch
yeh i agree, old school is a country mile ahead of anything else on the list. Seperating the rest is alot harder(by the way im not counting any wes anderson films, all though they have the frat pack boys and i love them they are not frat pack movies)
Anchorman is high for alot of people, and i have watched it countless times, with friends, and i laugh alot through it but the truth is i hate this film with a passion. Why you ask? For all the poeple that recite all the lines, copy those phrases over and over, AHHHH it drives me insane. I think meet the parents is a good film, unlike the others it doesnt rely on stupidity to get the laughs, but it does rely heavily on de niro. I think its clear when these boys want to make a film for the fun of it (zoolander) and when they just want to make bucks (taledega nights) Zoolander should be high in everyones list i think, a real classic and shows those guys style really well. Starsky and hutch was a huge dissapointment for, other than the scene where the little boy is throwing the knives i didnt find it very funny. But its still very watchable. Id say that about most of their films tho, not helarious but watchable. Dodge ball was a good offering, however old school is the only one i would consider as one of my favorite comedies ever. 'i f*cking need you more than ever' CLASSIC!
Wow. Could you have put that list together more half-heartedly? Better question: Could SI have found someone with an actual sense of humor to do this list? Traina, it's never too late to go back to teaching middle school. Just think about. Please.
Anchorman needs to be on top of the list simply for its influence on society. I'm pretty sure 75-85% of the population between the ages of 19 and 35 quote this movie at least once a day. After that you have to go with Zoolander, then Old School. Obviously Wedding Crashers should be placed on the list as well. But as for Meet the Parents and Night at the Museum, I'd say Talledega Nights or even the 40 Year Old Virgin probably belong on this list more than those. While not official "Frat Packers", John C. Reilly, Gary Cole, Paul Rudd and Steve Carell have proved they can hold their own in the genre and those 2 movies have the spirit of the classics like Old School and Anchorman.
Thank the Lord! Someone who disliked Anchorman The funniest part was the Fight between the news people The rest was crap and having seen the trailers a few too many times Uhhh...They cut allot apparently
To the guy who mentioned the band earlier that was in Wedding Crashers and Old School -- they were also in Starsky and Hutch, playing at Vaughn's character's daughter's bah-mitzva(SP). Also, "& Hutch" has one good moment. The dragon part. Enough said.
I dunno. All those people that hated Tennenbaums must not have been paying attention during the Owen Wilson TV interviews, where he's surrounded by all the porn DVDs and, um, interesting paintings. "Wildcattin'....Wildcattin.
And everyone else is right about Anchorman. "THAT'S the way I roll!"
Anchorman had it's moments but def. not better then Old School and the funniest movie ever??? I don't think so. And though The Royal Tennebaums had a lot of the 'frat pack' in it, it's not really a frat pack movie, though it is great...
I'm also going to sound like a broken record here, but Anchorman is really really good...after the first two times you see it. I saw it in the theater, and though I didn't feel like walking out, people I was with did. We ended up staying and watching it, leaving disappointed. When we rented it on DVD, I watched with a couple of my beer drinking buds and it was really the funniest thing ever. It is in my top 5 all time movies, and give it a chance, sit through at least 3 more viewings, you'll find yourself laughing more and more!! "Ugh.....so hot!! Milk was a bad choice!"
Vince is the real actor here...Watch a movie called "Return to Paradise"...Will is just ham-boning...it's what he's all about...not much talent there. Luke Wilson should've stuck to 'that 70's show' ... You should watch Vinece play 'Marshall' in the movie mentioned above.
1. Old School 2. Anchorman - Not #1 for the sole reason that Vaughn's character didn't play a bigger role. 3. Zoolander - One of the few movies in which Own Wilson is tolerable. 4. Wedding Crashers - An overrated movie. It features Vaughn at his finest, great Ferrell cameo, but dragged down by Wilson. 5. Dodgeball - Targeted at 15-year-olds; Vaughn's character isn't a big enough asshole. 6. Meet the Parents - Very good in it's own right but shouldn't be considered a Frat Pack movie. 7. Starsky and Hutch - I wanted to like this movie, but it's absolutely terrible. I can't say enough about how bad this movie is so I'll go with a less widely cited gripe: It even went so far as to bring The Band's classic song The Weight back into the public consciousness enough for it to be overplayed in a lame Cingular Wireless commercial almost to the point of no return.
By putting Anchorman so low you immediately lost any credibility and followed it up by ranking Starsky and Hutch so high. You probably loved Dude Where's My Car, didn't you? Ridiculous...
I want to see Brick from Anchorman kill Dancin Rick from S and H with a trident.... Old School is the best of them.But Anchorman is the most quotable (its an illusion, from the pleats). Rip Torns performance alone should put Dodgeball at a strong #3.
I don't know much but I do know two things: #1 - Excluding Anchorman from top 2 of all time pantheon quoteable movies (Along with Old School) is a disgrace! And #2: "I know that one day Veronica and I are gonna to get married on top of a mountain, and there's going to be flutes playing and trombones and flowers and garlands of fresh herbs. And we will dance till the sun rises. And then our children will form a family band. And we will tour the countryside and YOU WON'T BE INVITED."
I went through most of these postings, and I can't believe that no one has "Meet the Parents" ranked first! I'm a huge Ferrell and Vaughn fan, but DiNiro is hysterical in that movie, and Stiller is great as the can’t win boyfriend against him. After having seen Owen Wilson in later roles, his Jesus loving character is even funnier when you see it again.
There is one major omission: The Royal Tenenbaums, probably because Ferrell and Vaughn were not in it. The Wilson brothers and Stiller along with Gene Hackman, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bill Murray, Danny Glover, and Anjelica Houston. This movie is hysterical, as are the other Wes Anderson films. At the very least it is ahead Night at the Museum.
Sorry, but you almost completely discredit yourself by putting Anchorman so low...that is Will Ferrell at his best, improvising all over the place...and it by far has the best cameos...Jack Black? Tim Robbins? not to mention a pre-office Steve Carrell.
ZOOLANDER is getting no respect. wilson, stiller, and ferrel are in absolute top form magatu, hansel...come on! "crazy pills!" "mer-man mer-man" "so i became bulimic...you can read minds" once you understand the angle the humor is coming from you will see the absolute comedic genius.
Just an absolutely horrible list. Anchorman is the best movie I have ever seen, not just the best of the frat pack movies. I've never met a single person that didn't think it was hilarious. You should have your license to comment on movies revoked.
Anchorman is atrocious. I couldn't even watch it through once. I don't think its at all quotable. Same with Ricky Bobby. Zoolander is one of the most brilliant films I have ever seen. I love how they tear down Hollywood and make fun of it. Loved dodgeball as well and Old School to a point. Got a little tired of critics call it the 'new Animal House'. Enough. Vaughn's best work was done in Swingers and Owen Wilson is funny in everything. Give Zoolander another try.
I would rank them as follows: 1. Anchorman - Thought this was maybe the funniest movie of the last 5 years. The TV anchor rumble scene was hilarious, and Steve Carrel's role in the film is a classic. 2. Old School - Personnaly, I find the scene with Ferrel and Scott and the ill-fated tranquilizer dart crazy funny, and the scene in which they are racing around in the van to Metallica's "Master of Puppets" the best in the movie. When Ferrel screams at the wife that if she tells anyone he'll "f'ing kill you", and then with a grin "just kidding"...man, that's Ferrel at his best. 3. Wedding Crashers - A great movie for the first hour, and then it turns into a chick flick. But what a great first hour or so it is. Ferrel's meatloaf scene is classic. 4. Dodgeball - Very funny movie with some classic lines..."if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball..." 5. Zoolander - I thought this movie was absolutely hilarious. The scene in which Zoolander glares at the model of the Zoolander School for Kids Who Can't Read So Good, and then demands.."what is this? Some kind of sick joke? The building would have to be at least three times bigger..." The first time I saw that it was rolling belly laugh time. 6. Meet The Parents - DiNero is classic. 7. Starsky and Hutch - The only funny scene in this waste of a movie is the prison scene with Will Ferrel hitting on Owen Wilson...that's it. The rest was garbage.
You pooped in the refrigerator? You ate the whole wheel of cheese? I mean, if you are in the right mood 'Anchorman' belongs in the top-3. Wedding Crashers is a clear #1. An instant classic. I'd go 1-Wedding Crashers, 2-Old School (Frank 'The Tank' by himself makes this movie 2nd) and 3-Anchorman (Maybe the most quotable movie of the past decade.)
I would like to say the Zoolander was a god awful movie the first time I saw it. I had a friend (who loved the movie) sit me down and watch it again, and I have to tell you that I laughed my ass off at the subtle genius of their stupidity. Should be ranked no 2 or 3.
As a giant Will Ferrell fan, I love your choice as Old School as the best movie. Probably the funniest movie I've ever seen. Blades of Glory is supposed to show off Will Ferrell's genius, but Jon Herder sometimes dullness. Maybe if Vince Vaughn or Luke Wilson were in the movie (bring back the Old School clan!) we'd have something to talk about.
Well, I guess you're not a movie critic so you'll get a pass for picking the more popular movies. Old School and Anchorman are by far the best two movies this "frat pack" had done, not including the brilliant Royal Tanenbaums, which isn't technically a frat movie because it was before the group was formed. The Wilson brothers were tight with Ben Stiller way before Vaughn and Ferrell came out. Not to take anything away from those two actors because Vaughn's days with John Faverau were also excellent.
When will people realize that Will Ferrell is only funny when he plays cameos or sterotypes! Anchorman is his best role; however, he is a key mark in the "frat pack". I am still a fan of all the actors and hope they keep making movies. Even the dullest comedy in the group is funnier than the bullcrap that is being made today (Dane Cook).
to me the worst parts of Old School were the scenes where Ferrel had a significant part. I could just feel the movie slowing down to accomodate him and his "comedic talent"...which is basically acting like a nutball in an attempt to get a laugh. He is not authentic, he is not real, he is not funny, he is just boring. Ok he takes out the dean well, and for that scene he is well-suited. Not funny, just well-suited.
Maybe for someone from Ohio he is "a wild and crazy guy" but short of my suffering a significant head injury, he is dull, slow and boring in that role, oh so predictable, absolutely no comedic talent on display. "ok play a guy who drinks a lot of beer gets loud and loses control of himself, then does some dull, boring stupid drunk-guy things". On the off-beat, even. What he did wasn't funny, and his timing was horrible, he was just slow and out of sync with the rest of the cast, like they shot the scenes without him and edited him in later. I can't think of one former SNL'er who has worse comedic timing or presence. He is the anti-Spade. Take Mike Myers...in the first AP movie he was spot on. It was genuine, authentic, it was like he just did not care that he was being "outrageous", it was like that was who he really was, and it was authentically funny...his schtick was not *contrived*, it was totally free and natural and authentically interesting. By the last one you could see that he has lost his comedic mojo for real, and he's just hoping that someone will still find his AP schtick to be funny. Ferrel is like that but without the transparent, mutual awareness that he is hunting for a laugh...he either honestly thinks that he is funny, or is trying to be blase' about the fact that he is not funny. He just looks like a dummy. If I was directing Old School and he was not a major star in it, I would cut most if not all of his appearances, at least dramatically reduce his exposure time.
He was a lot better in the movie with Emma Thompson (who is just a hottie no matter what role she plays, sorry, even as a chain-smoking neurotic writer who lives in her PJs she was still hot), the movie was a much better fit for him than Old School. And have you seen the DVD outtakes from OS? Vaughn demonstrates quite a range of character in that frat house, it's a killer :)
I've never seen the Wedding Crashers but Ben Stiller is hardly comedic material. At his best he is a young, overly pretentious Uppper East Sider trying to make it as a "comedic actor" by turning up his nose at what other people do, and asking you to laugh at them along with him. Sometimes he will play the fool himself, with that sort of "comedy" as his comedic inspiration. Absolutely not funny, zero wit. I thought Luke and Vince were the only real comedic actors in OS and they made the movie fly. Anyway, I'm off to see "Anchorman" tonight...more later :) Maybe Ferrel is the American Austin Powers. Funny at first (I still think Belushi beat him in many ways, much earlier) many times can you say "Smashing!" and still get a laugh? Even Chevy Chase tried to move on from the slapstick after a while. Can you base your whole career on covering Nirvana and still be thought of as a musical talent? What, as a mimic? Didn't Hugh Grant play the cute, adorable good-hearted but slightly goofy English guy until his career flamed-out? Ferrel is well down that road. When he is done and gone, Anchorman will probably remain as his most significant work. For the sheer chutzpah on display, ironically...a comedy about a man who is blind to his overblown ego, by a man who is consciously blind to his lack of comedic talent.
Alright, this might sound redundant, but Anchorman is flat out one of the funniest movies of all time. This movie made Will Ferrell. And it is one of the most quoted movies ever. Come on, every part of this movie is hilliarious. "Tits Mcgee," "....Works everytime, whales vagina..." the list goes on
1. Wedding Crashers 2. Old School 3. Anchorman 4. Meet the Parents 5. Dodgeball 6. Starsky and Hutch 7. Zoolander
Wedding Crashers and Old School are in a league of their own. Anchorman earns its ranking with quotes like "I love lamp!" and "I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." I don't know how to tell you this, but it's kind of a big deal...
As for Vaughn, he's the king. He's the only reason to watch Be Cool. Twinkle twinkle baby. Twinkle twinkle.
First of all wedding crashers is Number One. Old School is funny but i have seen WEddding Crashers like 38 times and there is still something i find funny in it. Also the last third has some definite highlights. You mentioned the Will Ferrell scene which i think is argubly one of his funniest scenes ever. But how bout the whole suicide thing. The answering machine with This is John ..... WHat ever. And then I'm reading don't kill myself Books. I though the book was. It's for a friend i may have glanced at it a few times. Then kindly remove yourself. ANd hillbilly. Wedding crashers funniest movie of all time not just frat pac.
Zoolander is a perfect blend of ridiculous lines being delivered with complete perfect deadpan - Clearly Old School is a classic and the other movies are funny but in most its like you can see they know they are spoofing - I dont know if this makes sense but Zoolander is the only movie that I felt they actually pulled off the spoof 100% ...and it has the gas fight..
Anchorman tops the list, followed by Old School, Dodgeball and Wedding Crashers.
I hated Anchorman when I saw it on opening night in the theaters. On video, watching the movie with a big group of friends, the entire movie is a non stop laught. The more you watch it the better it gets.
I really hate to see Tennenbaums and Bottle Rocket lumped in here.
Yes, they have Frat Pack members in them but they are not in any way similar to the comedies like Anchorman and what not.
While those movies are your typical comedies with tits and drinking, Tennenbaums and Bottle Rocket (along with Life Aquatic and Rushmore) are far more artsy and intelligent.
People going to see them expecting a gross-out comedy or Meet the Parents is in for a suprise. Hopefully you will see that it isn't a comedy or a drama in the literal sense, but great movies with amazing dialogue, music, and cinematography by an amzing director and writer.
Don't forget, Luke and Owen Wilson have writing credits in some of Anderson's work.
I agree with you 100% regarding Owen Wilson in Meet the Parents. There is a scene at Wilson's house where he is discussing Teri Polo and he says "she's quite the tomcat" as he looks off into the distance. Just that look is absolutely classic.
I suggest you watch Zoolander and Anchorman again - they are brilliant. Steve Carell's acting and the gang fight alone put that movie into its own tier.
While technically not a Frat Pack movie, my favorite with Ben Stiller in a major role is the 1995 movie Heavyweights. Anyone who saw that movie knows that that is Stiller's best (and funniest) acting job by far. Thats why I was disappointed with Old School. I thought he tried to emulate his Heavyweight character (Tony Perkis) too much. However, it is clear that Old School is by far the best of the Frat Pack movies.
The first time I watched Anchorman, I absolutely hated it. But then I watched it with a group of friends, and they quoted almost every line, which I hate, but it forced me to go watch it again to see what the fuss was about and I loved it. So give it another chance, you'll be happy you did.
I usually don't comment on these things but I had to voice my opinion on this subject. I agree wth Old School #1, but how could Anchorman not be number 2. It is the 2nd most quoted movie of all time right behind Old School. I am in college and I am in a frat (so these movies are directed towards me and my generation) and there is not a day that goes by that I do not hear a quote from Anchorman. Not only is it halarious the first time but if you watch it for the 7th time you can still find soemthing new that you didn't see in the first 6 times you watched it. As for third movie on the list it has to be Zoolander. Zoolander is the same exact type of comedy as anchorman, except more of Ben Stiller instead of a mix of Will Farrell and A GREAT performace by Steve Carell. I just dont understand how Anchorman can be 7th behind Dodgeball and Strsky and Hutch.
I'm also a Vaughn guy, but Anchorman should be at the top of that list. There are more funny lines and situations in that movie than any of the other movies combined. Maybe you need to be of the appropriate age (late 20's, early 30's) to appreciate the 70's from a purely sarcastic, historical angle.
To "strictly" qualify as a "Frat Pack" movie, it must have at least one Frat Pack member in a starring role, along with at least one more in a supporting role. This is why Anchorman counts (Frat Pack Star, three Frat Pack Support, one Frat Pack Cameo) but why The Cable Guy doesn't (three Frat Packers, none starring).
More importantly, the movie must also share a certain comedic sense; we're talking fast-paced farce here, not slow, wry observational comedy (sorry, The Royal Tenenbaums fans). The films usually include a male-bonding component even if set against a romantic angle such as in Wedding Crashers.
Looser and more inclusive definitions allow for high-quality movies such as The Forty Year-Old Virgin or Along Came Polly with a single Frat Pack star, several Frat Pack friends, and similar comedic sensibility and theme.
With that said, here are my rankings:
1.) Old School; funny from the first viewing. Do not need to see it 5-10 times to think its funny.
"You're my boy, Blue!"
2.) Wedding Crashers; Vince Vaughn back in top "Swingers" Trent form.
"Might as well be a bullseye!"
3.) Anchorman; A good ensemble cast. More Ferrell than Vaughn, but has better quotes which should count as something when discussing with friends.
"I'm kind of a big deal!"
4.) Zoolander; Will Ferrell as Mogatu & his 'Frankie/Hollywood' link, Milla Jovovich being the hot #2 strong arm, the improbably cameos from David Bowie & Billy Zane, and of course, Quotes.
"Orange Mocha Frappucinos!".
5.) Starsky & Hutch; Stiller and Wilson are a bit watered-down, but the biker scene was funny, Ferrell in prison was great, Vaughn being a believable bad guy, bringing back the same band from Old School to appear at Vaughn's bat mitzvah was worth some laughs. Not great, but watchable and funny moments.
6.) Dodgeball; I love this movie, but the only reason I have it this low is because of how annoying Stiller was in this movie. Way too many wrench-thrown-at-the-crotch physical humor, and how much Vaughn had to work his "mojo" versus the other characters who are good in other movies, but couldn't come together in this movie.
Gary Cole just KILLS "the Ocho" and 'Pepper' was perfect, but not enough to overcome the short comings of the other stuff.
This movie would have been a D+ if not for Vaughn, Cole, and Jason Bateman's 'Pepper'. By sheer will, they moved this movie to a C+/B- level.
I'm a big fan of Zoolander. And the very reason is because it's a stupid movie. You don't have to think to understand what the movie is all about. And that's probably the very reason why it's a good movie.
humor is subjective, obviously, so take this with a grain of salt. that said, your list is an abomination...you can almost reverse the whole thing. actually really just zoolander and anchorman, moving old school down a little bit and moving wedding crashers way down.
however, i know why your list so bad, and i also know there's a large part of the population that thinks like you and will agree.
when you watch movies you're stuck in reality and in the big hollywood narrative...that's why you didn't get zoolander and anchorman. period. those movies have almost nothing to do with how people actually behave, whereas in old school, wedding crashers, and meet the parents you get depictions of traditional characters based on 'realish' people. i'm not saying guys who start frats at the age of 40 or crash weddings are normal, but the personalities these guys have are.
the big-time exceptions in those movies is obviously will ferrell's characters who are the ones who seem like insane caricatures. now here's my point...his 'fake' characters are generally the funniest. will ferrell's characters wouldn't have to have the sappy ending that makes everyone hate the last third of wedding crashers. think about it, who is the guy in old school that people can most identify with and seems like the most 'real' person. luke wilson. oh, and yeah he's by far the least funny guy in that movie.
zoolander, anchorman, and royal tennenbaums (also just a great movie overall, and it's pretty sad you left that off even though it's not much of a 'frat' movie) are by far these guys best movies. it's not even close. go watch them again, and when you do, stop thinking that they have to be like your perception of reality in movies. no one has walk-offs (well at least not unironically) and dogs can't talk to bears, but that crap is funny. well it is if you don't need every movie to be a romantic comedy instead of just a comedy.
Anchorman is the greatest comedy to be released in the last 637 years (I would've said 638, but that would have included the year when Shakespeare's "Tribute to the Salient" debuted, and it is a classic in its own right.)
In order: Anchorman, Old School, Zoolander, Meet the Parents, Wedding Crashers, Dodgeball, Starsky and Hutch, Royal Tenenbaums (I know people who swear by this movie, but I hated it.) "Night at the Museum" doesn't warrant inclusion).
Nice article. Vaughn over Ferrell, definitely! And I agree, "Anchorman"? I didn't get it at all. It was torture to sit through. I would put "Wedding Crashers" over "Old School" as well and "Anchorman" would be last on the list!
Thank you! Anchorman has got to be one of the worst movies ever made. There's nothing to the argument that it has "such great quotes." Saying inane one liner after another doesn't come close to covering the fact that it isn't funny at all, has no plot whatsoever, and is terribly overacted.
I'm saying The Royal Tenenbaums does count so here's my list.
1)Old School 2)The Royal Tenenbaums 3)Zoolander 4)Anchorman 5)Wedding Crashers 6)Dodgeball (4, 5, and 6 are interchangeable so I ranked by quotability) 7)Blades of Glory (haven't seen it yet, but I am certain it's better than the next two by default) 8)Meet the Parents (most overrated comedy since There's Something About Mary) 9)Starsky and Hutch (myeh - the dragon bit was funny)
-A Night at the Museum doesn't belong. Haven't seen it, but it's a different type of movie.
I bet we'll see John C. Reilly joining this group soon. He and Ferrell really work well together.
I had the opposite experience with Anchorman and Wedding Crashers. I loved Anchorman from the get-go. Still my favorite frat pack movie. Note that it is the only one with Steve Carrell who raises it above Old School in my opinion. I thought Wedding Crashers was well below the other two the first time I saw it. I smiled a lot but barely laughed out loud. In contrast, I fell off the couch watching Anchorman.
Wedding Crashers does have my favorite frat pack movie babe - Rachel McAdams. There's a topic for another blog entry - ranking the women of frat pack movies.
The Royal Tannenbaums was a great one. Gene Hackman was hilarious as was the lil indian fellow with the stabbing problem. Luke Wilson did some of his best work, where his wishy-washy attitude finally fit a character. Paltrow seemed to be spoofing herself. Bill Murray and the scene with the kid rearranging the blocks is great, Owen Wilson is a lazy tool as usual (what is likable about him? I don't get it and don't know who enjoys his schtick) and Stiller has what I think is his best role, since I hated meet the parents and the sequel, and think Something About Mary wasn't much of a role, since a role should be you playing a character who isn't you unless you are audie murphy or something.
Good movie, even has a sports scene (Tennis counts i think)
I was going to post something about how bad a writer this guy Traina is, but then I read somebody's post about Emma Thompson being a hottie, and I no longer have any desire to be a part of this chain. Instead, I'm going to go vomit up the Subway footlong meatball sub I just ate.
anchorman is classic...the scene where baxter is punted off the bridge by Jack Black has to be rewound and watched at least 3 times every time I watch this movie. "Baxter, you know I don't speak Spanish!" Also impressive that a lot of the lines were ad-libbed by Ferrell.
His character in Zoolander (Mugatu) made the movie as hilarious as it was...no one else could have pulled off that part!
Indeed your list has no credibility - hated Anchorman, didn't get Zoolander?!?!?! What's the matter with you..."men have bigger brains - it's science!!!" Anchorman was one of the greatest comedies EVER. Not saying the best ever, but it's in the dicussion. I think you should take that advice and watch it again. And again. And again. Until you get it. And then you'll be able to quote the movie in casual situations - like the rest of the planet. For what it's worth, my rankings... 1. Anchorman 2. Old School 3. Wedding Crashers 4. Zoolander 5. Starsky and Hutch 6. Meet the Parents 7. Dodgeball 8. The Royal Tennenbaums (Stiller, Luke Wilson)
Overall, the list is decent. However, Anchorman and Zoolander are too low. Anchorman should be in the top 3 as far as I'm concerned.
For those other Anchorman lovers who can't stop quoting the movie almost 3 years later, if you haven't seen the second Anchorman you're missing out. My roomates and I bought the special DVD version 2 years ago and actually prefer the 2nd disc over the first. I'd sugguest checking it out.
There's a clear division here between two groups of people: 1)People who loved Anchorman and 2)People who clearly did not love Anchorman. I'm with group 2. I don't know whether Night at the Roxbury is a frat pack movie but a young Will Ferrell is hilarious in it (especially since the movie is so atrocious). Everyone needs to watch Night at the Roxbury!
funny, but I'll turn your list upside down, starting out with Zoolander as their most funny movie, then followed by the anchorman which was hilarious (I love lamp). Dodgeball comes 3rd, 4th is Old School. The other movies are on the same level. I love these movies, I can't even count how many times I've watched Zoolander coming home after a night out - it's even funnier when you see Will Ferrell in the child's dress talking to Derek Zoolander.
1. Old School 2. Wedding Crashers 3. Anchorman 4. Dodgeball 5. Starsky and Hutch And the list should stop there. The Royal Tennenbaums and Zoolander were Awful. I did like Night at the Museum, but for the same reason as Ryan, I was making out with his girlfriend. =0)
1. Old School--like Jordan in the 90's unbeatable(is KFC still open?, red dragon, Craig Kilborn introduces us to "guy code"
2. Anchorman-Will Ferrell coming out party. Needs to be seen at least 3 or 4 times to get all the subtle humor, sight gags, and expressions. Is there a better scene in any of these movies than the NewsChannel Brawl(tonights top story, the streets run red with burgundy's blood)
3. Wedding Crashers-good right up until the 65 minutes mark
4 Dodgeball-Jason Bateman and Gary Cole on the ocho
5. Meet the Parents-more about DeNiro than Stiller
6. Swingers-Vince Vaughn at his peak. Basically it was like Vince say and do whatever you want. Needed less Mikey. We all remember cheapshotting our friends in NHL for Sega. If it featured more of the pack it would be much higher.
7. Royal Tennenbaums-great movie cast may be a bit too large but funny none the less(go Mordecai!!) its my kinda funny
8. Zoolander--not really my cup of tea. some swear by it, i just swear at it
9 Bottle Rocket--This is the most underrated movie of all times
10. Kicking and Screaming- Will Ferrell lite. Him and Ditka, the coffee and insulting the kids and their parents funny stuff
1. Anchorman - I agree with most posters that Anchorman is being grossly under-rated by this amateur...but i understand why. The movie is simply a collection of ridiculous scenes strung together with a stupid plot and a lot of useless scenes that just move the plot along. That said I still think it should be rated #1 on the list due to the sheer amount of legendary lines. "My apartment is full of many leather bound books and smells of rich mahogany."
2. Zoolander - This movie is the epitome of the Frat Pack. It put all the main characters in roles that perfectly suits thier strengths. Stiller as loveable lead works because he is probably the closest thing to a true actor of the entire crew. Ferrell as Mugatu is legendary (if only for the hair). And Owen as Hansel may be his defining character as well (he's the only guy on earth that could pull off playing a supermodel while being that ugly).
3. Tenenbaums - if you don't love this its because you don't have the mental capacity to understand it and you're missing the point. It is a comedic tragedy. The point is to depress you while making you laugh...a perfect dichotemy. The acting is phenomenal and the absurdity involved is amazing.
4. Old School - I love this movie but rank it below the others because I was living this movie when it currently came out. I think most people loved this movie because they thought it was an unbelievable version of college life...which it wasn't. I was actually in a fraternity where I was surrounded by more humorous people and situations than the movie touched on. I actually lived with Frank the Tank (His real life name was Scuba Steve), partied with Nelly at our house when he came to campus, and got laid precisely 3 times per semester because of my address.
All the rest: blatant box-office moneymakers. They all seemed forced. The frat was better while they were PHDs...Poor Hungry and Driven. That is why we won't ever see another great from the Frat. Their supporting cast is carrying the torch now...a torch which the frat took from the likes of Myers, Sandler, Farley, and Carrey.
Aside from 40-yeal-old virgin the frat's "rushees" have been making some solid flicks for a few years now. I think someone else posted it already but the funniest movie released this Millenium, without a doubt, is "Wet Hot American Summer" A MUST-SEE for any comedy officianado.
The "Real" Frat Pack Movie Rankings 1. Old School- "Well Columbus wasn't lookin' for America my man, but that turned out pretty okay for everyone." 2. Anchorman- "When this all gets sorted out I think you and me should get an apartment together." 3. Zoolander- "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills." 4. Wedding Crashers- "Erroneous! Erroneous! Erroneous on both accounts!" 5. Dodgeball- "I just threw up in my mouth a little bit." 6. Meet The Parents- "You can milk just about anything with nipples." 7. Starsky & Hutch- "Alright guys, I'm not going to lie to you, this is gonna' get kinda weird....two dragons." 8. Night at the Museum (Doesnt Count as Frat Pack Movie- I think a movie should be atleast somewhat funny to qualify and this one certainly did not meet that requirement)
I honestly can not believe that there are this many peopl that hate on Will Ferrell....he is unquestionably one of the funniest guys of ourgeneration...seriously, he's sketches on SNL are legenday...and the guy who wrote that Will Ferrell has no "comedic timing" clearly doesn't know anything bout comedies because Will's comedy is all bout the timing...the well placed punchline with the correct tone afflection is just a priceless combo that only Will can deliver...i personally cant wait to see Blades of Glory...its goin to be dope sauce...and as an added bonus will arnett is in it.....
Since I couldn't waych Anchorman all the way to the end without clawing my eyes out and ripping my ears off, I'd have to say it will never get those extra viewings its fans are saying it needs to be funny. That said, me being the only one to think that milking cats is beyong holatious, my Meet the Parents vote probably won't carry much weight. Alsthough, remember, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball". BWAH-Ha-Ha-Ha.....
You're right, you are wrong about Anchorman. Hands down, #1 Frat Pack movie. Remarkable for quotability, just non stop funny (and only Owen short of being a FP-wash, with Tim Robbins (!) stepping in where Owen would have been). Watch it again, and get your hands on the follow up movie, made up of out takes and alternate plot lines. Dodgeball (fantastic movie - great supporting team - Justin Long, Stephen Root, Gary Cole, Jason Bateman, and Patches O'Houlihan!). Old School. (Not just Ari, but Ari's hot wife, too) You're my Boy, Blue! Wedding Crashers (Y&R is fine, as long as Rachel McAdams is the one on the screen). Now That's a Sack Lunch! MTP, Starsky. Didn't see Museum, but can guarantee it's better than Zoolander.
1. Anchorman 2. Wedding Crashers 3. Old School 4. Meet the Parents 5. Dodgeball 6. The Royal Tennenbaums 7. Starsky and Hutch 8. Zoolander
Your crazy if you don't like Anchorman, this is Ferrell’s best work yet, and has great supporting actors like Steve Carroll as the vacant Rick ("Rick killed a guy"), and great cameos by most of the Frat Pack. Zoolander was a complete waste of time.
I went to see Night at the Museum with my kids (because we live in NYC and they love that museum). I thought it was going to be bad, just another kids movie, but I was pleasantly surprised, so I think it all about expectations. If your looking for a kids movie, you’ll like it, if you are looking for another Anchorman, you will be disappointed. Best line "I'll never quit you!!!" Only the dad's laughed. Wilson, as usual, was much funnier than Stiller, but in a much smaller roll.
I'm a HUGE Dodgeball fan. My favorite comedy of the last who knows how long. Personally, I just don't find Will Ferrell funny. Talk about a one-trick pony. Vince Vaughn is brilliant because he's so understated and low key. Ben Stiller is very uneven; some of his films I love, some I despise. Never seen Anchorman; just because a movie has lots of one-liners I can quote to strangers and get a high five doesn't make it good to me.
I'd have to go with Old School as number one. I literally cried I was laughing so hard during the dart scene. After that, I'd have to say Anchorman and Dodgeball for the quotes alone. Like you said, Wedding Crashers was good for the first 2/3. Starsky and Hutch had its moments. Zoolander is for retards and Meet the Parents is for female retards!
First of all jimmy, your so lame. If you didnt laugh at Anchorman you really should see a doctor because you dont have a pulse. Anchorman is number #1 and Old School is at #2 respectively. Wedding Chrasher was also very high but i went with old school because it started it all.
Random question, for all those people who loved anchorman after watching it a second time, how many of you were high?
Id say that Wedding Crashers was number 1, although the last third was terrible, except for when he shows up at the church and says he just crashed a funeral, and then proceeds to talk about how it actually does work.
IMDB.com (Internet Movie Database)has the order as follows - with average viewer ranking /10 in brackets: 1) Wedding Crashers (7.2) 2) Meet the Parents (7.0) 3) Old School (6.8) 4E Anchorman, Dodgeball (6.6) 6) Nights at the Museum (6.3) 7) Startsky & Hutch (6.2) 8) Zoolander (6.1)
Royal Tenenbaums tops them all at 7.5. Swingers, VV's breakout role, is 7.6. he I think the meet the parents score may have benefited from being a bit more of a chick-flick than some of the others.
I'm sorry, but Ben Stiller carries these movies. It's not Vaughn/Ferrell, it's all Stiller. He has proven that he is hilarious as the serious guy (Meet the Parents, Starsky and Hutch) who gets screwed over by everyone, as well as the crazy guy (Zoolander, Dodgeball). I personally find him funnier as the serious guy, especially in Starsky and Hutch. Everything focuses around him because Will Ferrell or Owen Wilson aren't funny unless they have a serious guy to piss off (Stiller). And anchorman isnt funny, zoolander is hilarious because it is quotable, and the royal tennenbaums is just a different kind of humor that only some people like.
I think Anchorman has to be at the top. The subtleties are the things that make this movie. As they walk through a park in the city they so "love", they litter their corn dogs on the ground. The best line in the movie: "Uh. I'm storming your castle on my steed, my lady".
Jimmy, I think it's great that you made this list. But you do have it virtually backwords. Sitch Old School and Meet the Parents; then flip the entire list and put night at the museum last. Anchorman and Zoolander are by FAR the Funniest comedies in this group from start to finish. You key element in both these classic comedies is their quotablility. You can literally quote just about everyline from Anchorman, with Zoolander not being far behind. Ok, so you didn't get Anchorman. Anchorman is basically a giant saterdaynight live skit about the 70's. It is mocking male sexism that dominated the work force before and up to this era, it's mocking how corny local news stations were and still are. But mostly its funny because of the phenominal chemistry between the main 7 actors or so that are in the movie. PLEASE watch this again. Now I used to agree with Zoolander; I hated it and would have put it at the bottom of the list by night at the museum (correctly placed btw). I even watched it a second and third time over the course of a year to let it breathe- didn't work. I found it hilarious after I found some friends quoting it and making impressions of the actors in the scenes. So i watched it again and found it funny, and now I can't stop laughing at the entire thing when i watch it now. Even though Ben Stiller is my least favorite of the Frat Pack group.
Anyhow cheers to you for dubbing them frat pack and making the list. Hey what about Royal Tenenmbaums and The Life Aquatic with Steve Zisu? Consequently if you added them in they would be like 5 or 6 for me after old school and wedding crashers probably. They are most definately the best MADE movies in the list and by FAR the best directed, but not as funny to me.
Here is The List. No debate whatsoever. 1. Zoolander 2. Old School/wedding Crashers. 3. Meet the parents 4. Starsky and Hutch/Anchorman 4. Royal Tennenbaums, dodgeball were all bottom tier. Actualy they kinda sucked.
When it comes to Anchorman I agree with your friend. The first time I saw it I thought it sucked and Im a huge Will Ferrell fan, but i watched it a couple of times after that and I laugh every time I watch it now. I would put Old School and Wedding Crashers tied at # 1, it's so hard to pick one.
You definitely need to redo your list...Anchorman is no lower than 3 out of all these movies...Night at the Museum should not even be considered. Vaughn's roles have been different in most of these movies and he plays them all very well. Ferrell dominates any scene/role he is in...stiller, owen, and luke round out the top five...
I enjoyed the list and am also a huge Vince Vaughn fan, anything he touches turns gold. But I gotta tell ya his scene in the Break Up where he's playing Madden against Jennifer Anniston's date goes down in history with the NHL SEGA scene in Swingers. That scene alone should get the Break Up in the top 10. Besides my girlfriend at the time hated it, which means it had to be great. One more note, sorry to hear ya don't like Anchorman but anytime Ron Burgendy (Ferrell) can bust out the line "how bout a little bit of ham and eggs" and proceed to play the flute, you gotta acknowledge it.
Oh man. I have two major beefs with this list. First off, Wedding Crashers at No. 2 is just not right. That movie got so lovey-dovey it was disgusting; I can't comprehend why everyone gives it so much love. But the real problem here is Anchorman. You put it behind Meet the Parents, Starsky and Hutch, and DODGEBALL? Are you serious? Dodgeball sucked. Your friend is right about needing a re-watch, a couple of my friends didn't catch the genius the first time around. You HAVE to see it again. 1. Old School 2. Anchorman What do those two have in common? Ben Stiller isn't a headliner. God does that guy know how to ruin movies with lightning speed. Finally, Ferrell is too good to be denied. Ferrell over Vaughn, and it's not even close. Vaughn isn't that funny, he just plays in funny movies.
Anchorman has to be at least top 3 for me. I am definitely a Vaughn guy. But yeah Anchorman was great and how could you put it so low when one of the funniest guys came out with Anchorman. Steve Carrel was amazing in that, plus not too mention that is the only movie where everyone in the "frat" pack makes an appearance. Otherwise I think you have a pretty good list.
Jimmy, You are to movie ranking what Colonel Sanders is to the defense of heart disease. "Anchorman" second to last on your list? That's as crazy as a Brittany Spears Mother's Day card. You can't mention "Anchorman" to someone without the exchanging of memorable lines from the movie taking up the next five minutes. Friendly advice: Stick to "cripsy or original recipe?" and leave "Anchorman or Old School?" to the rest of us who know what we think we're talking about.
I will basically go with either Vaughn or Ferrell, as long as the movie is good. My rankings:
1 Anchorman 2 Wedding Crashers 3 Dodgeball 4 Old School 5 Meet the Parents/Fockers 6 Zoolander 7 Starsky and Hutch
and I wouldnt even rank Night at the Museum... it wasnt that bad, but it wasnt in the same vein as the other films... I didnt go into it with the same mind set as I did the other films, expect a Frat Pack film. Leave it off, along with Bottle Rocket and The Royal Tennenbaums, which isnt Frat Pack either, its too smart to be a Frat Pack movie, and the inclusion of Wes Anderson changes it.
anchorman is the funniest movie of ALL TIME!!! simple as that... right behind it is old school, then zoolander, starsky and hutch, dodgeball.. thats the top 5.. and if there is no ferrel or vaughn in a movie it cannot qualify as a frat pack movie, sorry... of, and the tennenbaums were the dulllest movie ever..
As with all comedies, the 'quotability' is the primary watermark as to how good the movie is. Without further ado, my list... 1. Old School. Anytime I have to go to the home improvement warehouse, I always will go to Bed, Bath & Beyond... if I have enough time. Also, if I hear 'Total Eclipse of the Heart', I think, I-f'n need you more tonight, I-f'n need you more than ever! Three more, 'just ring the bell, you Pansy' 'I need you to Earmuffit for me' & 'You're my boy Blue!' 2. Dodge Ball. Everything that everyone else said (the Ocho, Chuck Norris, Rip Torin) even Harry Scherer with the Young Rip Torin Cameo. Obscure Sports Monthly & 'I'm sorry I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.' Sophmoric Humor at it's best. 2. Anchorman. Trust me I wanted to have it higher on the list, but the 2 above are entrenched. 'You ate a whole cheese wheel? I'm not even angry, I'm impressed!' The Jack Black cameo 'You just ruined something I loved! What do you love most?' Even though it's cruelty to animals, the thought of Baxter flying off the bridge makes me laugh even as I think about it. I can't even count the number of times I've joked 'You might not know it, but I'm kind of a big deal' We haven't even got to the TV News Rumble yet. This movie is an A+ but Old School & Dodge Ball get the nod because who hasn't seriously thought about the premise of those two movies- Starting a Fraternity as an Adult & Entering an Ameteur Sports Competition with the hope of winning. 3. Zoolander. 'Ee-googlie.' Nuff Said. I also have to mention the scene when they are trying to access the computer & are acting like primates (to illustrate the brain function of Male Models) & "I feel like I'm taking Crazy Pills!" Very Underrated. 4. Tie- Meet the Parents & Wedding Crashers. Meet the Parents wasn't Laugh-Out-Loud Funny (but it made me smile a lot) But Wedding Crashers Made me laugh until the Chick Flick took over the premise. 5. Starsky & Hutch. Ben Stiller as a policeman on undetectable cocaine. Hilarious! Vince Vaughn was stellar in this one as a rich, drug dealing kingpin. Jason Bateman as his underling was cast perfectly. That' my 2 cents. Steve H.
Sorry man, but anchorman's gotta be number 1 on here. I realize that you're an adult and everything, but you have to understand that most of the Frat Pack's movies are directed at the teenage audience. I am still in high school, and Anchorman came out when I was a sophomore. I swear, I think we all watched it no less than 10 times, and no matter how many times we quoted it, we still laughed just as hard as we had the first time. I hear a lot of adults absolutely hated it, but it was by far the funniest movie to come out in the past 13 years (Dumb and Dumber came out in 1994).
Not only do I question your ability to judge a great comedy (Anchorman is CLEARLY the best of the bunch followed by Wdding Crashers) but I think you're ranking of Ron Burgundy's career on celluloid calls into question ANYTHING you have written, are writing or will ever write about any subject. And I mean that in the nicest way possible sir.
I mean really,the jazz flute scene, the "you have an erection scene". The list of classic scenes goes on and on.
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