The Next Great Bust
Unless you've been lodged under a large rock the past few weeks, you know that the NFL Draft is next weekend, This, of course, means that every armchair GM in the country is busy projecting which quarterback will be the next Peyton Manning and who will be the next Akili Smith. One thing is certain: Of the players drafted, a good chunk of them will turn out to be Andy Katzenmoyer-sized busts. We've weighed in with our list of the all-time greatest flops, but today we want to talk about this upcoming draft. We project Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler and Minnesota running back Laurence Maroney as the biggest disappointments. Who, among this year's crop of draftees, do you think will fizzle in the NFL?
I really don't see Cutler being a bust. He went to Vandy, so he's got some smarts and he carries a gun that could fit a ball in the smallest of windows. I project Young to have an Andre Ware type career, as in you won't see him any-ware in a few years. Lienhart the same, too much of a pretty boy. He played out West where there is no defense at all and is now going to play against the best defenses in the world. You heard it here first, Lienhart flips his only NFL paycheck into an acting career. LA finds another reason to love him.
Cutler is going to be terrible bust as will Vince Young and Matt Leinart. When are NFL learn that you don't need to be a first round pick to win the Super Bowl. Yeah Big Ben won this year, but does anyone here really think Ben was even a remote reason why the Steelers won this year?
I think both Maroney and Cutler are underated. I think both will be mid to late first round selections, and that Maroney will be a Rudi Johnson/ Dominic Davis type back. Not spectacular, but someone you can build a contender around. Cutler I see as a Drew Bledsoe type guy. He may not explode onto the scene, but he will still be throwing balls 10 years from now. Leinart and Young I believe need to land in the right situation to be successful (more so than Cutler). My busts are Johnathan Joseph (1 year of pro football), Jimmy Williams and Dominique Byrd. Joseph and Williams because there are many CB prospects in the draft, and without fail, at least a few will fall face first (I'm looking at you Trufant and "Pac-Man"). Byrd I think will be a bust because the expectations on him at the newly reinvented TE position will be more than his athletic abilities allow. I think he was a product of the USC system, rather than a spectacular talent.
I don't think Cutler is going to be a flat out bust. No, he's not going to be Brett Favre, but I think he'll have a solid career. I also think that Matt Leinart will also be ok. Again, not Tom Brady, but he'll be above average. Vince Young, the next Andre Ware? Please. You obviously have not seen him play. The guy has a calmness-in-crisis attitude that belies his ridiculous competitive nature. Plus, he's a natural-born leader whose teammates gravitate towards him. I think the biggest bust will end up being Mario Willliams. Granted, I don't watch a lot of ACC football, but I'd never even HEARD of him until the draft approached. My darkhorse is LenDale White. He has all the tools, but it seems his head just isn't in the right place, especially when you compare him to his former backfield running mate.
I think of the big three QBs, Leinart has the most potential to conjure up images of Scott Mitchell during his NFL career. Cutler may have skills, but being a product of the Vandy system has forever poisoned his football psyche. As far as Lendale White... I personally think he tanked his workout at the request of John Fox of the Panthers. He and Fox were out to dinner the night before USC's pro day... coincidence? I think Carolina wanted to make sure nobody ahead of them wanted this guy.
My pick for the biggest bust is Leinart.
I'll put this out there for ridicule. I think Bush is going to be a bust. Maybe not a one-and-done bust, but I don't think he's going to live up to the huge expectations everyone has
established for him. He'll be a solid started for a few good seasons, but injuries will catch up with him quick. Let's see him cut or sprint with a mucked up knee or two.
It has to be Vince Young. The hype for him is out of control. The problem is he'll either get forced into an offense like Mike Vick's or given free reign by an "innovative" offensive coordinator. If he's in the Vick offense, his passing skills will quickly be exposed as less than accurate. If he has free reign, he'll end up getting creamed by faster, stronger NFL defenders. VY is in a no-win situation. He won't be able to out-athlete most NFL players like he did in college, but he won't be able to be an effective drop-back passer either. He may be the best scrambling quarterback of all-time, but that doesn't mean he'll be a good QB. If you look at the other great scramblers, Tarkenton, Steve Young, young Steve McNair, MacNabb, Cunningham, they all have one thing in the common--they were accurate downfield. When Vince throws the ball more than 25-yards, you hold your breath, hoping for a completion.
Hey, if anyone has ever seen Laurence Maroney run around, through and over Big Ten defenders, then they can talk. True, he had a subpar combine, but Vince Young's Wonderlic score isn't gonna hurt him. Maroney has been taking licks from Big Ten defenders for three years, and was and still is better than former teammate Marion Baber, III. He is a solid between the tackles runner and has definite speed to break the big one around the corner. Mark my words, he will not be a bust.
I'm gonna go with Bush. He is an amazing athlete, but his greatness is because of his speed and agility. But this isn't college anymore. He won't be outrunning the defenses to the corner like he used to and after he gets hurt, those quick lil moves will be gone too. Give him two years and then he'll be confined to special teams.
All I have to say Brdie Croyle second round pick what a joke.
Trust me on this the biggest bust in the draft will not be Matt Leinart, Vince Young, or Jay Cutler. In fact it won't be any one on offense. Mario Williams DE from NC State is so over rated and had bust written all over him. People are comparing him to Julius Peppers and saying he has Hall of Fame Potential. No way is Mario Williams like Julius Peppers. Peppers coming out of college ran a 4.5 forty compared to Williams 4.7. Also Peppers when he played at UNC jumped off your tv screen with his playmaking ability. Williams is inconsistint and takes plays off which won't cut it in the NFL. Who ever drafts his will regret it.
I think that it is pretty clear that Lienart is going to be the bust. The guy played against some of the worst defence in the Pac 10 so he has yet to learn what being HIT really is. Does anyone remember the Rose Bowl when he was hit hard and had to leave the game? The guy looked like he was in a complete daze on the sideline. I guess only time will tell though
Cutler hasn't even really been in a pressure situation.. out of the big 3 quarterbacks, he's the one most likely to be a bust. I think Leinart and Young will be just fine: Their reputations speak for themselves. Leinart is a smart enough quarterback to read and react to any D, no matter how complicated, and Young has the athleticism to make up for any shortcomings.
The most obvious (to me anyway) bust in the draft has got to be LenDale White. His speed is average for a NFL running back, and he's not gonna run though defenses like he did in college. He'll be a servicable back, just not a game-breaker like some people think he is.
I think Vince Young is completely overrated. When was the last time a "Running QB" even made it to the Superbowl? Before you go blurting out Donovan McNabb, let me remind you that in the 04-05 season, he averaged 258 passing yds per game and only rushed for (a career low) 220 yds. Simply put, Running QB's can't stay healthy long enough to have very productive careers.
Cutler threw up ridiculous stats against some of the toughest defenses in the country and with none of the surrounding talent benefiting Leinart or Vince Young. Because he was Vanderbilt's only real offensive threat, every SEC defense was designed to stop him week in and week out. And he still produced.
Cutler is also miles above Leinart or Vince Young mentally. Cutler has experienced the struggles of a moribound program and the dissapointment of mounting losses. He knows what it is like to be your team's only hope. These are the finer points that build on inherent athleticism to determine which quarterbacks succeed, and which don't.
Chad Greenway. He made a whopping 3 tackles against Florida in the Outback Bowl, and he looked like a puppy on a freeway at the Senior Bowl. A classic Mel Kiper pick, tests well, great attitude, but in real life he's overmatched.
Agree totally on Cutler, he throws off his back foot, so his misses are high which means INT in the NFL. Eli Manning redux, occasional brilliance but a team killer under pressure.
You say Maroney has been taking licks for three years, but he was only the outright starter for one of those years. Plus, you say he's better than Marion Barber. What is that supposed to prove to me, he is better than Dallas's 3rd RB? Great. Looking forward to him in Indy.
And Carlos in Texas, when I saw your name, I expected it to be a shameless promotion of Vince. I was pleasently surprised.
I am so sick of all the people who say Vince Young is going to be a bust because he can't throw the ball, if you are going to judge him at least pretend like you have watched him play. Andre Ware?? He ran the run-and-shoot, there is no resemblance to Vince's college offense. Thats the furthest thing from the truth the only three knocks on his passing abilities are 1. His funny release (which due to his height has been discussed as a none issue), 2. He puts too much air on his deep balls (which definetely needs help)and, 3. Limited experience dropping back from under center. The guy was the most accurate passer in the entire country, he puts more than adequate zip on his ball, he is a freak athlete and a tremendous leader. I agree he needs to work on learning the pro game before he is ready to contribute, but give him 2-3 years to develop and you will have yourself a winner, and VY will most certainly be up for the challenge ask USC and Ohio State, Oklahoma, Colorado...
Laurance Maroney will not be a bust. He will be the best RB from this class. The busts from this class will include LenDale White, Jay Cutler, DeAngelo Williams and Chad Greenway. Matt Leinart won't produce as highly as he should considering his draft selection but he will have a solid career. If Maroney gets into the right system for a rookie running back will run away with the rookie of the year award next season.
I believe Winston Justice has the makings of a bust, Excellent pro day numbers but game film shows an unpolished player at the very least he will take some time to develop.
How can someone say in the same phrase that 1-Mario Willliams will be a bust 2- they have never HEARD of him until the draft approached 3- they don't watch a lot of ACC football. Don't knock down a guy without knowing his body of work dude!
In my opinion of the "big 3" quarterbacks Vince Young is the highest probability for a bust.
1- Running QB's always risk injury
2- going from shotgun to drop back QB takes time
3-his arm stregth is good but not ideal
4- low release point
If a team has the patience to groom him and setup an offence that works with his skills he could be a great NFL QB. The problem is he is probably going to get drafted high by a bad team that will toss him into the fire quickly and that could spell disaster for a player that needs some work but has the highest ceiling.
Carlos in Texas, you obviously never watched Vince throw a deep pass. Look at his highlights from the OU, Ohio State, and USC games. Vince has awesome poise in the pocket and he throws strikes. Can't you admit that it takes some talent to lead the nation in passing efficiency? To say he won't be able to "outathlete" nfl defenses is ridiculous. Obviously the game is faster in the NFL, but how many NFL player were on USC's defense last year?
The biggest bust has to be Jay Cutler. I am always skeptical of QB's that nobodys heard of until the Senior Bowl. Plus, the guys stats were awful until his last year, he couldn't even complete half his passes until his last year. I think we found the next Patrick Ramsey or Heath Shulter, maybe the Redskins will somehow grab him too!
Cutler will not be a bust. Being an NFL quarterback requires a brain, and from what all the "draftniks" say, he has one. Now, I don't think he'll come out and throw for 40 TD's, but a bust he will not be. As far as Maroney, I think your off base there as well. He proved to be durable throughout his career in a run happy offense. His size is not a question, and fumbling was never a problem. Seems to me like he should be OK. Just one guys opinion.
Hey first poster, why don't you learn how to spell "LEINART" properly before making an arguement nobody cares about. Secondly, I agree, I don't see Jay Cutler being a top notch back. True, I haven't seen that much of him but having a cannon of an arm won't do you a nit of good if you cant make the throws, just take Kyle Boller as a example. I see Chad Jackson being an Ashley Leilie type of player: great attributes and good hands but just not enough will and heart.
Because of the expectations placed on the first 5 picks of the NFL draft, very people will likely live up to them, although I wouldn't call them busts.
The two people set up to be busts, though, are Mario Williams and Vernon Davis. Leonard Pope seems to have had more attention on him until Davis blew everyone away at the combine. And as far as Mario Willaims... most people were paying more attention to his buddy on the other side of NC State's d-line, Manny Lawson.
I don't have much faith in workout-wonders. If they hadn't gathered attention from their play on the field, I doubt their abilities in the pros. Workouts should be used to separate two guys who look virtually the same on film, not to make a guy leap 2 rounds in value.
I believe Leinart, Young and Bush will all be busts. Bush will be the next Desmond Howard - hype, physical skills and the college credentials - that frankly won't translate to the NFL. He's like a 5'11 shooting guard in the NBA, there's no place for them. Bush makes great plays no doubt about it, but remember he is not the first "Sayers-type" college player, anyone remember Glyn Milburn? The defenders will so much faster on this level, and he'll only have 10-15 plays to get it done in a game. Lots of lost yards balance by an occasional breathtaking play.
I view Young as an option quarterback, maybe a prettier version, but option nonetheless. You all know how option quarterbacks are dominating the NFL these days. Another factor is his entourage, can you say training camp holdout? Its not a good sign that when you're finally going to sign on the dotted line your agent has no clue where to find the dotted line.
Leinart? He came back for one more year to take ballroom dancing and play for a national championship that had already been conceded to USC. Sounds like this guy wanted to avoid the real world for at least one more year. I can see this guy going to a bad team, and it's never going to be his fault because he's not used to losing.
To re-cap, Bush=Desmond Howard, Leinart=Joey Harringon, and Young = Jason White.
What is your basis for Cutler being a bust? The kid played on the 2nd worst team in the SEC for multiple years, he had no talent around him. Now look at V Young, he played for a NC team and despite his ability to create outside the pocket, he took maybe 6 snaps under center, like pro-style. Young has the ability to be the worst, sure he has Mike Vick like qualities, but just as it has for Vick it will take him longer to develop. Cutler has the ability to come in and contribute right away as a pocket passer.
I think the big upset will be vernon davis. there is no way he will be able to block 280-300 pound defensive ends. another thing is tight ends don't make it in the pros to good. I think that leonard pope will be the guy to get.he has height, speed, and blocking ability.Vernon might have to be moved to wide reciever to even start his carrer
it has to be dbrickashaw ferguson. If anyone missed him at the music city bowl, he was regularly beaten by minnesota's undistinguished defensive ends. People have him rated as a can't miss, he may start and be average, but definitely a bust compared with expectations. Maroney should be ok, not great. Cutler feels like a bust because his judgment under pressure resulted in a lot of college drives being stopped dead. In the pros, they will be interceptions. Young and leinert should be fine to excellent starters for years to come
Reggie Bush is going to be the biggest bust of the draft. Unless he suddenly finds some moves like Barry Sanders, he just is not big enough to run through tackles in the NFL. In college, Reggie Bush was always the fastest person on the field, but in the pros there are going to be plenty of guys who are equally as fast and he will not be able to run away from them.
What exactly is the basis for thinking Maroney will be a bust? He displayed more ability than Marion Barber III for two years, and Barber showed he is a capable NFL back himself last year. Other than Reggie Bush, Maroney is the most explosive running back in this draft and probably the last few.
The answer is clear: Jorge Johnson a Left Tackle out of Tijuana State. He is 380 LBS. but he is only 5'9" I am not to hot on him.
Mario Williams is another Julius Peppers, so I doubt he'll be a bust. I'd be more worried about De'Brickshaw Freguson...o line prospects picked in the first 10 picks seem to have pedestrian careers...Galley has been underwhelming, and Bryant McKinely has plain stunk up the place.
I am jumping on the bandwagon and saying that Cutler is going to be a huge bust. This is a guy wo never got his team to a bowl game in his career and a guy who lost to a Div I-AA team this past season. If this guy is as great as everyone is saying he is, then why could he not get his team to six wins once in his career?
For anyone saying that Vince Young wont make it you are crazy. Look at Micheal Vick and see what he has done. Young is a better passer and better runner then Vick. Lienhart wont do nothing. Its not hard to throw a TD pass when your team has the best recievers in the nation. Cutler, who is Cutler? I didnt see him doing anything in college so why do people see him doing anything in the NFL. Way overrated I think. Chad Greenway and Abdul Hogde are the most under rated guys in the draft. Those two will start and make a big impact on defensive teams wherever they go.
Cutler's gonna be smart coming from Vandy. He'll be fine. Maroney on the other hand will be a bust. A 4.85 in the 40, there are DTs faster than him.
I don't understand why everone's saying Vince Young is gonna be a bust. The 1st time I saw him play I said that he's THE MAN and whoever drafts him is gonna get one special guy at QB. And that was long before the rose bowl. VY's gonna be a superstar for years to come makr my words.
I don't understand why everone's saying Vince Young is gonna be a bust. The 1st time I saw him play I said that he's THE MAN and whoever drafts him is gonna get one special guy at QB. And that was long before the rose bowl. VY's gonna be a superstar for years to come makr my words.
I think Culter is going to be a bust of Tim Couch preportions. Someone is going to blow a first round pick on him and thare going to regret it. Being a Vikings fan i hope we aren't the sudused by a low quality guy that had a great combine. OK i know I'm going to sound crazy but i think that Reggie Bush is going to be a bust. He not only always had the best talent around him at USC but he had seemingly nonexictent defences to run through(see Arizona State).
Mark these words Bush is going to be a BUST. He might be usful on kickoff and punt returns but there is no chance that he is going to be a full time back. Think back on the rose bowl, when USC needed points late in the game guess who wasent in the game Reggie Bush. Whenever White had any production Bush's production when down the drain. Lastly I think that DeBrikshoue Furgason will be a Pro Bowler in two years he everything you want in a LT. GO VIKINGS
I think Reggie Bush will be the biggest bust. Big play type guys without the necessary NFL size have been overrated and flopped in the past, can anyone say Desmond Howard?
Cutler is the best QB of the draft. Leinart is the most overrated QB in the history of the NCAA. If I, a goonish bum, had the best O-line in the country,was surrounded by superstar WRs, and had Reggie Bush to threaten in the run game, I could lead USC to 3 straight confrence titles in the Pac-10.
Bush will be the biggest bust of the last 10 years of the draft. The NFL is not the weak Pac-10. In the NFL people hit and tackle. Being so small and fragile will catch up with him very quickly.
After seeing your picks of the top 22 bust of the modern area, I was suprised not one Cleveland Brown made your list. I blead orange and brown, and maybe that is why I think you missed three former brownies on your list. 1) Tim Couch 2) Gerard Warren 3) Courtney Brown and soon to be 4 is Evil-Kanevil him self, Kellen Winslow. (Learn how to ride a bike!) We could also see Braylon Edwards in this list if he does not recover from his knee. If the above list is not enough to convince that the next great bust will be who ever the browns draft, I don't know what is!!
I've been a Vandy season ticketholder for 11 years. Cutler is special. He reminds me of what Eli Manning did at OleMiss. He took a bad team and made them good. Vandy finished 5-6 but lost heart breakers to Florida, South Carolina, and MTSU. Vandy could have easily been 8-3. He's not as polished as Leinart but he's very scrappy like Brett Favre. He may need a year or so but he'll be a good quarterback in the NFL.
Vince has deserved every ounce of "hype" he has received...did you watch the Rose Bowl at all? The kid put them over the top. By the same token, did you happen to see how Leinart and Bush looked merely average on the biggest stage in college football this year?
Leinart will be a bust...he's going to a crap team with no protection and the kid runs like a statue wearing cement shoes.
While not the highest profile player projected in the first round by any means, the one player I think is an almost guaranteed bust is Ashton Youboty CB Ohio St. As a long time OSU fan, columbus resident, and current student of this fine institution, I've watched Youbody play, and i've seen very little which helps me understand why he's a projected 1st round pick. To NFL teams thinking about picking him early in hte draft I say, did you even WATCH the OSU-Minn game? My buddy and I were pulling our hair out as it seemed on every other play, Minn would simply throw the ball on a high arch towards whoever Youboty happened to be covering (usually Ellerson, occasionally Payne) and each time they would beat him for a big catch. We started calling those yards "Youboty yards" and there were a good 100-120 yards of them in the game. I understand that being caught in single coverage is difficult, but a CB who simply could simply couldn't cover man to man in college isn't 1st round talent in the NFL.
I think Cutler will be a bust. He could not lead Vanderbilt to even one bowl game. Cutler has a strong arm, but is not a good enough decison maker for the next level. Kamerion Wimbley will also be a bust, his draft stock is rising just because of a good combine workout. There will be a run of cornerbacks in the first round, and I belive that Tye Hill is too short too be a shut down corner. After Michael Huff, Antonio Cromartie is the best available cornerback in this draft.
I agree on Maroney. The guy has Ron Dayne written all over him. He ran behind a great offensive line all year, and during the one game in which that line broke down (Penn State), he proved that he doesn't really have the talent. The fact that Gary Russell could move in there when Maroney got injured and do just as well speaks volumes about how any back would look good behind the Minnesota line.
You know who's going to be a bust SI? MATT LEINART AND VINCE YOUNG. They are the two most overrated QBs in the history of the game. Go ahead and downplay Cutler, for when he shocks all of you hacks, I will be the one laughing.
First of all Vince Young is Jesus in cleats, so all the talk of him being a bust can stop right now. Hes better than Vick in every way other than speed, and as much as Vick hasn't done he's hardly a bust. Cutler, looks like a bigger faster Jeff Garcia to me, and i think he'll have a solid NFL career. If anyone is gonna be a bust it is Matt Leinart. The guy is a glorified Ken Dorsey. Hes slow, dosen't have a big arm, and has a huge ego(which dosent match his skills). Not only did he play behind one of the best offensive lines in college football history, he had White and Bush to hand off to, and a host of great recievers. Not to mention hes not even half the Quarterback Carson Palmer is or was.
I think Haloti Ngata will be a bust. No question he is an abousetly beast, but unfourantely for him he got weight problems. I don't see him being a solid tackle for seasons. Maybe a good run stuffer for a couple games, but I am postive the wear and tear on the season will get him. Another big bust I see, Matt Lienhart the offensive in pac-10 get so over exgratted because of lack of defense, but if he put up those kind of numbers in the acc or sec then I would give more respect. But Haloti Ngata and Lienheart my two leading picks for being a big bust.
Because there is never a sure thing in the NFL--injuries can turn ANYONE into a bust--it's foolish to think Reggie Bush is guaranteed to light it up in the NFL. In this day and age of 255 lb. linebackers who run a 4.5, you need a durable and special he-man type of back (Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton) to have a Hall of Fame career. If the Texans are foolish enough to give Bush 25 carries a game, he'll do well to finish out his rookie contract. I sure hope I'm wrong, because we haven't seen a back so entertaining since Barry Sanders.
I saw every Steelers game this past season. Yes, they have lots of other weapons, but Big Ben was far from being a 'remote' element of their success. Leinart and Young I foresee as serviceable, though not great, QB's in the big, in the Trent Green / Marc Bulger sort of way. Cutler I honestly have not seen play, so I'll reserve judgement.
Did anybody see Reggie Bush in the Rose Bowl? against a defense that was comparable in athletic ability to the USC offense. what did he do? well he did alright but was it a performence worthy of being called the next Barry Sanders? first and foremost there will never be another Barry Sanders, ever! Second, every defense in the NFL is an athletic defense with guys who have incredible lateral movement! Bush will probably be a good running back in the NFL because of his work ethic, but not a great one. Lendale White on the other hand, if he can overcome personality problems, was very effective in the Rose Bowl, if he improves his work ethic than he may very well be a better running back in the NFL than Bush, and as far as his attitude and performance in combines and pro days...is anyone familiar with sand-bagging? Leinart is going to be good. He has always exceded expectations and overcome adversity at times (i.e. being cross eyed) he may be a pretty boy but he has the intangible of being a "winner" that only other athletes truely understand, this does not necessarily mean that he won alot of games, which he did, it means that he came through for his team when they needed him and always rose to the occasion. Vince Young will be a bust unless he gains some weight and is put at tight end, otherwise he isnt fast enough to be a reciever and dont even think about him being a quarterback. Lets look at quarterbacks who are "running" quarterbacks, michael vick, he has a better arm than Young, Steve Young (ironically with the same last name) was not primarily a runner he was still a drop back passer in relative comparison, same with Mcnabb, same with Mcnair, the only somewhat effective QB in the NFL who has based their game around their running ablility is Vick. Running QB's simply have never been effective in the NFL, this is undisputable fact. Yes he does have heart and that intangible upside and that is the number one element esspecially in college but Rudy never played in the NFL, you still must posses the rest of that package in the NFL. The only sure fire pick in the draft, or at least in the first round, is A.J. Hawk, and if the green Bay Packers dont take him at number 5 it will be a mistake. An outside linebacker thats 240 with 4.4 range speed and all the intangibles that Hawk posseses will not be a bust. As far as Cutler goes We'll all find out soon, he may be good with the right coaching or he could flop, its a coin toss for the team with the fortitude to pick him.
It's all well and good to label someone a bust in a high profile place like this, after all, it doesn't affect your paycheck. Jerk. Let the young men have their day and we'll see how they do.
Carlos, have you ever even seen Vince throw the ball? He's about as accurate as you can be, and you don't have to throw 40 yards downfield to be a successful quarterback.
The question i have is what determes whether a player is a bust?does it mean they dont live up tohype or that they are terrible?I have a hard time believing that Leinart will be terrrible. He has too strong a pedigree, plays too well under pressure, and is too smart. Young will be okay because of his talent. he may not be a Mcnabb or of the level of a Favre but he will be fine. he may not be a hall of famer. i dont really see either of them being a bust. Now if bust means not living up to hype, the level is so high for both these guys they very well may be busts. they need time and the right situations. I wonder about players like Broderick Bunkley, Haloti Ngata, and Ernie Sims.
The comment that LenDale White tanked his pro day at the request of Carolina's John Fox is hysterical. Yep, here's a young man who willingly gave up the prestige of being a higher draft pick, as well as giving up millions of dollars of contract money, "at the request of" a pro coach. Must be a pretty big Carolina fan...
I don't understand why people are continually saying that Matt Leinart will be a bust. Yes, at USC he probably had better talent around him than he will next season, but he made all the throws, and has the intelligence that no other qb besides Peyton Manning has. He does have a mediocre throwing arm, but has all the intangiables of being the next great qb. So, out of the three quarterbacks, I can foresee Young being a little worse than Michael Vick, Leinart being an All-Pro, and Cutler being a marginal starter.
I know this may seem a bit out there, but I see D'Brickashaw Ferguson being a bust, or at least not as good as everyone is saying he will be. He may have all the mechanics and those extremely long arms, but at only 265 pounds, he'll be pushed around in the NFL. Also, DeAngelo Williams is going to realize that the NFL is no Conference-USA. He'll be a career backup, which is probably considered a bust for a first-round choice. And a not so controversial opinion is that Vince Young will just not be that good. His biggest asset was his running ability, but he lacks the pure speed to really be effective in the NFL. He has decent accuracy, but he won't be able to stretch defenses or fit passes into small windows. Lastly, I see Sinorice Moss being bullied by defenses, and LenDale White being a slow, weak, ineffective lump in the backfield. He may soon go the ways of Maurice Clarett.
I think Mario Williams will be the biggest bust. He had a very average first half of the season last year and only came on in the second half. That means that he was only "great" for half of one of his three college seasons, and I think his work ethic and motivation are suspect. Besides, can we really tell how good a guy is based on his play in the ACC(which was not that great of a league in 2005)? I think the biggest sleeper is LenDale White. We now know that he has been injured, and that injury clearly adversely affected his combine. But he tore through the Texas defense like it was wet toilet paper in the Rose Bowl (other than on that last carry, of course). Reggie Bush, on the other hand, barely managed anything against the tough Texas D. (Why do you think Reggie was on the sideline on that critical 4th down at the end of the game? Pete Carroll knew that Reggie would not get the necessary yardage because he hadn't all game long!) With all of the negative scouting and media reports I think LenDale has something to prove, and I believe he will prove all of the many naysayers wrong. I believe that Bush won't be the superstar that everyone is forecasting based on his weak performance in the Rose Bowl. But Vince Young IS going to be a superstar, and those teams who do not take him will definitely regret it in 1-2 years (maybe even this year). He's the closest thing to Superman I've seen on a football field.
I gotta disagree with Carlos in Texas, especially about his point of Young being inaccurate. He completed 65% of his passes last year, the same percentage as Leinart. He also averaged about half a yard more per completion. He has an unorthadox throwing motion, but he gets the job done.
How can we say that Cutler is going to be a giant bust when we act like Young is a god. Vince Young is the protoypical run and gun quarterback. Vick has a similar style and it has worked out ok for him but he has a few pounds on Young. Vick has still had an injury prone career and I see no reasons why Young's will be any different.
I think Cutler will be the best of the three. Young will be a huge bust at QB but at 6'5" 230lbs he may end up at a WR or TE spot in the future. Either way he will be in the NFL for awhile. Leinart will be comparable to a Chad Pennington type, good but never great and with a smaller arm less teams are interested. Biggest bust of this year's draft... Vernon Davis TE Maryland great on paper but just wont make it in the pros, primarly due to being with the 49ers. Biggest steal... Joseph Addai, early 2nd round pick going to the Packers.
I definitely am thinking AJ Hawk will be a bust. He played in the Slow 10 so it made him look a lot faster than he really is. The speed of the NFL will run circles around him.
I really think the biggest bust of the draft will be Reggie Bush. I just don't see him being an every down back in the NFL. I think he will be ok, but certainly is not worthy of the #1 overall pick in the draft. A player who never carried the rock more then 20 times in a game during his entire collegiate career is a player who can't hold up to the physical nature of the NFL game.
regarding the aj hawk comment:
that guy ran circles around notre dame. and notre dame was fast on offense. he got to quinn a number of times and quinn is quick at getting rid of the ball. hawk will be great.
Lawrence Maroney will not be a bust. This guy may have had a good offensive line, but do you know how many great defensive lines he went against in the Big Ten? Many. This guy produced against the great Big Ten defenses (which are all oriented on stopping the run), and will do it in the NFL.
Doesn't A.J. Hawk share a lot in common with brian "BOZ" bosworth. Great college careers, weird haircuts, same body type, and the most important over hype. Hawk is a great college player I would love to see do good at the next level. Call me crazy but I have a gut feeling about him. Vince "BUST" Young will also be a bust because he looks to pass for .1 tenth of a second while searching for a rushing hole 3.9 seconds
ive watched Cutler for the past two years at Vanderbilt and he will not be a bust. He performed in one of the best conferences in the nation with absolutely no team around him. Opposing defenses never had to blitz as anyone could run straight through that sorry excuse for an offensive line. He basically was throwing to one competent reciever whose would be blanketed by at least two defenders each play, get smashed in the mouth, have to run for his life, and yet still put up huge numbers, played extremely well under pressure late in games, and can absolutely gun the ball. Not to mention Vandy had absolutely no running game, keying defenses to stop the pass. Leinart and Young on the other hand could sit all day behind those huge offensive lines, lob it up to superior recievers, and keep defenses honest with great running games. Cutler will not only not be a bust be he'll end up being the best of the big three with talent around him.
It's amazing that so many people can project busts or success stories about people that don't exist: Leinhart, Culter, etc. It kind of shoots your credibility in the foot if you can't even spell the player's name correctly. Oh wait, maybe that was Vince young spelling those names, my bad.
To whomever said that Vernon Davis would be the bust, WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM???? He won't be able to block 280-300 lb DEs and Pope will? Are you insane? Pope did 22 reps of 225 while Davis did 33. I won't even waste my time talking about the 40 times. Pope is 3 inches taller but outweighs him by 1 lb. But VD is pure muscle. His season stats are better. Since he's from DC his hometown is better. Do some reasearch before making outlandish remarks like that!!!!
To the last blogger on the subject of Lawrence Maroney:
Hmmmm… perhaps you did not watch the same game that I saw when Maroney stopped by in Happy Valley. He did not “produce” against the PSU defense, he got stuffed… often. But then again, maybe you were catching a lovely mid-afternoon nap. Either way, Maroney did a great job of showing us what to expect in the NFL while on the field that afternoon: nothing.
Harrison Eisenberg- next time you want to copy one of Skip Bayless's articles in your comments, you gotta put quotation marks around it. I read that on ESPN about "not jumping off the screen," as well. Also, next time get the times right; Mario ran a 4.66. Also, he's taller, heavier, stronger, and jumps higher. Sure...he could bust, anyone could- but you owe it to yourself not to look like an idiot on the boards. How do you like living in Chapel Hill?
Ok, why does everyone say that Cutler will be a bust? Seriously, put Lienhart or Young on Vandy and they're just two quarterbacks getting smacked around in the SEC. Apparently some of you people didn't watch the Vandy/Florida game, Cutler brought that team back and had it not been for a messed up penalty they probably would've won.
Now Vince Young on the other hand will be a bust. Everyone says he lead the nation in passing, ok he did this year, but he didn't the two years before, one year of good passing does not a great QB make.
Remember the last running quarterback who was supposed to revolutionize the NFL? Mike Vick.......yeah we all see where he is now. Lienhart was surrounded by better talent, Cutler could've lead that to the title game too.
Fact is, Lienhart and Young had the better talent, put Cutler in with that talent and his numbers would be a lot better then they were this year or previous years.
Go check the stats if you think I'm crazy, look at the yards and the td/int Cutler is heads above lienhart and young, and that was with lesser talent around him.
The Steelers wouldn't have even been in the SB without the season-saving tackle by Big Ben against Indy. I'd say that qualifies as a "remote reason".
Number one it is hard to say who wont and who will live up to all the hype and money these guys get for being first round picks, but im going to make a couple of predictions any ways. For startes I have and unless he blows me away in the NFL, I think that Vince Young is going to flop like a fish out of water. First off comes from a gloried shit and shot offense which we know doesnt translate into success in the nfl, just look at Florida qbs of the Steve Spurrier era. The other person I think has a huge chance of being a bust is Mario WIllams here is a convincing stat that I heard he played against three divsion 1-AA colleges in his carrer and had no sacks in those games also in his last 23 games the guy only had 13 sacks shouldnt those numbers be reversed for a guy that went number one overall i mean come on
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