Who should head to the NBA (and who shouldn't)
On the flip side, both Greg Oden and Kevin Durant should go pro since they are projected to go No. 1 and No. 2. Despite struggling mightily in the Hoyas' Final Four loss to Ohio State, Georgetown junior Jeff Green already has an NBA-ready game and should declare himself eligible for the draft. Same with Florida's Al Horford, who after two straight national championships has nothing left to prove.
Who do you think is ready for the NBA and who needs another year in school?
Selfishly I was upset when the Gator Boys jumped today. I am a UNC fan and have no allegiance to Florida but how sweet would it be to watch a group go for 3!!!! GIven they lost Humphrey and Richard and this opened the door for Donovan to go after Patterson and Lucas who are gonna only go somewhere where they can play. Personally I think those two were waiting to sign anywhere till they saw what Florida was gonna do. I am praying Brandon Wright comes back but I think he will jump. Durant and Oden should follow their guts, they will be just fine either way they go.
conley could go...he has the talent, definitely...another year will only allow him to become that much better, though, and i really hope he gives himself the opportunity to improve
Florida's guys are gone. Jeff Green should really look into leaving. I don't think he will ever be a superstar, but he could be a great supporting player. How many teams don't want a solid, fundamental, pass-first big man. Now add perimeter versatility, and you have a great pro. Shane Battier's numbers were never that impressive, but Memphis never had any regrets after drafting him.
Oden and Durant are the only freshman who should be declaring. Both have proven they can star. Brandan Wright has a great game, but he needs another year of seasoning. He needs to show off his game more, not as much as improve it.
After those three, there are no freshmen without holes in their game. Conley, Hawes, and Thaddeus Young could succeed, but another season would improve their game, and give each of them a chance for more(or any) success. OSU is bringing in another strong class, and Cook and Lighty could become stars next season.
Lastly, Thabeet better stay if he wants his career to last more than two years(the new 1st round cut-off year).
I agree that Conley Jr. should stay although I wouldn't blame him for leaving. On the other hand, Taurean Green should definitely stay another year. I personally don't think he's NBA material. All he can do is hit an open college 3-pointer. Where is he projected in the draft anyway?
Mike Conley could easily make it in the NBA if he leaves, especially since the NBA is in great need of point guards. Conley seems to be an ideal mix between a modern athletic playmaker and traditional point guard.
It may nonetheless be wise to stay a year. While he is already a very gifted and smart player, he could be a sold as a franchise point guard with another year of refinement in the comfortable confines of a hungry Ohio State squad.
The Buckeyes will keep coming in both basketball and football.
Oden should stay a year or maybe even 2 more. I know the millions are tempting, but staying will only give him more experience. It is a lot easier playing against the college level talent as apposed to the Pros. There are a lot of big guys in the NBA that will eat him alive! Besides that I'm a Buckeye and want to get that title. haha
Branded Wright, UNC, needs to stay. He has no face the basket game and he gets intimidated playing agaainst people as big as he is.
As an OSU alumnus, I think you comment that Oden is ready for the MBA is laughable. If anything, I think he needs three more years at OSU to fine-tune his game. Same goes for Conley and Cook.
without doubt, jeff "doc" bockman, owner of one of new york's greatest street games, should go pro. on the other hand, he'd have to give up a lucrative career as an advertising copywriter. tough call.
I agree with Jeff B. that it is laughable that Oden is ready for his MBA.. however I think he is ready to play ball in the NBA.
Does anyone remember a couple of years ago, saying the UNC players should go pro, they are ready, nothing left to prove, etc. Has anyone heard from them since? As nice as it is to take all the jack NBA franchises want to toss to these kids, the NBA is a me first individualistic game and if you really want to play ball, no reason to leave. No one is ready for that, for the 4 games in 5 nights on the road, 82 games over 8 months season. Everyone should stay, but I can understand if the junior class comes out. Oden needs lots more work, Durant needs to be able to learn to compete defensively, Jeff Green has to hit a shot more than 10 feet, Brandon Wright is last year's Tyrese Thomas (side note: what a mistake for the Bulls to draft him) and I can go on. Enjoy the college celebrity life, let your coaches improve your game, the money will always be there, hopefully the kids' game will too.
Oden is certainly ready to be an NBA big man if you are talking about todays NBA, where potential is valued over skill, and often goes unfulfilled (what up Kwame?). If Oden wants to realize the potential so many see in him, he should stay at least one more year ... then he may be the next Ewing or Russell, rather than struggle against the likes of Shaq while trying to find his game
The way Noah played in the National Championship Game he needs to stay in school to polish his game and get ready for NBA sized bigmen! Also, Shaq shoots better free throws than Noah. Yes you read correctly, 'Shaq' 'better' and 'free throws' were all in the same sentence!
I'm an OSU alumnus as well, and I'd love to see Oden stay. It's tough because he's a big man who needs to work more on his offensive game. College basketball, with zone defenses, is tough to improve as a big man because teams can sag 3 or 4 guys within arm's reach. It might be easier for him to learn offense in the NBA, where he will only be double-teamed if he can score from the post on a regular basis. But I definitely hope he stays so we can make a run at the title next year! Having 2 seven-footers in the starting lineup would be great! Oden and Kosta Koufos.
Tyler Hansford = most overrated player in college. Won't make it in the NBA.
Greg Oden - needs another year
Kevin Durant - needs bulking up. Another year of seasoning / weights would do him wonders
No freshman should leave except Durant. I think Oden still has a lot to prove and needs to develop his offensive game a little more. Micheal Conley Jr is boarder line. Yes he needs to work on his shot, but you can do that in the league. Hes a great ball handler and passer so he's almost ready. As far Brandon Wright or Spencer Hawes NO WAY!!! Tuarean Green should also stay. Hes definitly not ready, plus he might not even get drafted and the earliest is mid 2nd round. Josh Mcroberts really needs to rethink his decision hes not atheltic enough to play with the big boys in the NBA. Tyler Hansbourgh should stay because he has no jump shot and is only 6'9'' maybe.
Oden is good enough to go...but has such a good head on his shoulders he may decide to stay one more year and have a run at the champioship al a florida...he could lead Conley, Butler, Cook, Lighty, Hunter and Koufos to one unbelievable year..maybe undefeated!!!!GO BUCKS
As a Fla grad I would like Joakim Noah to return. . not so much because he could help the team next year but mainly I don't think he had an NBA game. . yet. He could use a bit more muscle and improved footwork around the basket. I agree that Taurean Green is not NBA ready either. It was gratifying watching Al Horford's game mature . .with his ability to step out and hit the outside jumper. Something Noah has to do. .less he eats a lot of leather in the pro game. While Noah's enthusiasm is contagious. .it's his skill improvement that will be judged at the next level.
Most likely Noah will go. .just out of peer pressure with his Gator Boys. . but Cliff Richard will make a far bigger impact in the NBA. Sometimes college is just a better place to mature. It's time for Billy to reload.
I watch the NBA preety regularly and Mr. Oden is ready to play with the big boys. if he chooses to play in college thats great too, but in all honesty he is good enough to make a big impact right now.
I would also like a list of the players who "would eat him up". That is just silly. There are only a handful of people in the league who are a physical match for him.
I think Oden is ready for the big time and even though OSU fans will selfishly (naturally) want him to stay, he was being underutilized. One could argue that he needs to still develop the nuances of the game, but I honestly believe Thad Matta is not the best coach to reach that level. As a result, his game was suffering, and for a big man as talented as he is, his ceiling will never be approached if he limits himself to playing with boys instead of playing against men who'll push him.
I agree w/ a couple of you out there. I'm from Indiana and have watched Oden come up into his own, but NBA ready he is not. He really isn't muscular enough to bang w/ the big boys and just staying on or two years would only help him in the long run.
Oden and Conley both should stay to work on both of their games and to mature as well. Ohio State's incoming freshman class is in the top 5 again with a 7'1 who shoots the 3 and handles the ball like a pg. Having 2 7" along with hunter, cook, and conley in your starting 5, Ohio State would be the favorite to when the title next year IF Oden stays!!
I've watched the supposed top two in Oden and Durant, and given, I think Oden would make the better pro however, I think he would benefit staying, there are flaws in his game such as staying out of foul trouble and conisistently being a pressence in the middle.
As for Durant, he really needs to stay I think, I mean sure the guy can pull the trigger but, what about the fundamentals like knowing how to pass out of a double team? The guy is too flashy for his own good I think, being overly aggressive can be a good thing or a bad thing in the NBA and right now I think if he came out it would be a bad thing for him.
Horford has got huge upside in the pros, if I were a team scout I would seariously look to take this guy in the top five. He has a good body frame and knows how to use it to his advantage, of all the big men who are gonna be in the draft, I think he's got the best all around talent, including outshining Noah. Not sure what to really make of Noah at the moment, he's got skill but, something about him doesn't ringout as him being a good pro player, kinda reminds me of Yao Ming just alot shorter and not as skilled in the post, basically I think he plays a little soft down there. Corey Brewer has a chance to shine in the NBA, he's got that slasher mentality and and can shoot a decent J but, not really sold on Lee Humphrey, he's more a stay in one spot type of guy looking for an easy shot, he'll ride the bench aplenty in the NBA Taurean Green should stay he's good but raw, he could really improve himself staying another year because as of now, at best, he's a late second rounder.
Maybe it's just me but Mike Conley sorta reminds me of Chris Paul, he's got a better all around game than most people think and I think he would be a pretty good pro.
Nobody outside the BuckeyeNation wants Oden to return. If he returns OSU will be tough next year. Not only do teams have to worry about 1 7'0 in the paint, OSU will have two.
Keep this in mind Buckeye fans, Conley's dad is becoming an agent and you know who his first two prize clients are going to be.
I would like to see players come back because it just makes the college game that much better. NBA needs to have the same 3 year rule as the NFL. It would make both the NBA and college game that much better.
I think Durant and Oden could use one more year of college..we know what they can do obviously but the NBA is way different and there style of play would change once they get to the PRO's and also staying one more year is telling all the good freshman that are thinking about leaving after one year of college isn't mandatory..besides the NBA isn't going anywhere
I think that Roy Hibbert should stay and continue to develop his game. He has shown flashes of brilliance for g'town especially in the passing game. He also could work on not commiting cheap fouls that were nagging in the later portion of the tournament. the potential is there. Durrant should go he really has nothing else to prove. the only thing that could possibly bring him back is a desire to win the ncaa tournament it is the only trophy he lacks. Oden may feel the same way.
Players don't "continue to develop" in college like they do when they actually go to the NBA and get paid to train and focus on nothing but basketball. It's not like in the old days.You either have the ability to play in the NBA or not - more college ball does not make you better suited to play in the NBA. Anyone who will get drafted should leave.
Oden should stay! Yeah, Im a buckeye and that is maybe (most likly)a majority of my opinion, but I dont think he is ready! He needs to get stronger to battle with those big fellas in Shaq, Howard, Amare, etc. He needs to be totally comfortable with both hands. And needs to play with lil Conley as long as he can! If Oden comes back.....OSU will be undefeated and win a Natty Champ, kind alike another Buig Ten team did under a Buckeye..Bobby Knight in Indiana..either way I wont be upset with Greg, but Id love to see him play in Cbus again!
I think Conley should go. He can improve his game and get paid. I don't think anyone can promise him he will go higher in the draft next year. Last year McRoberts was in the same boat. This year his draft stock dropped.
As a Buckeye fan, I have to put myself in Oden's shoes. Be a celebrity on campus while continuing to play at OSU or declare for the draft, instantly earn millions while honing your game on the biggest stage?
I'll take the money, thank you very much. How much farther up can he go? He's already got the top spot in the draft, and is a Championship in college worth millions when you may eventually get an NBA title? Only thing left to do in college is get hurt.
Stephen Curry is better than all of these players from Ohio St., Florida and the like. I'd take him over any of them, but thankfully for mid-major fans and the Davidson Wildcats, he actually values education.
Well I am not a huge fan of the NBA anymore, I have to say that first. Along with that I think the 1 year rule is crazy, why do you think that the NFL is so much better of a professional league !! They force the players to stay for at least 3 years of school, that reduces the number of Adam Pacman Jones types to a minimum and makes them have to stay focused on school.
As for who should come out I think they should all stay. One it will make them better when they do get there, and will only make the Talent level at the college ranks a little better by allowing some better NBA level talent to be playing against a few times a week.
Secondly Oden might be athletic but he really lacks offensive skills. He will make an impact defensively but who wants to watch more 84-76 battles in the NBA !?!?!? I want to see Dallas and Phoenix and Golden State and watch them shoot the 3 effectively and score on the fast break.
Colleges are supposed to be institutions of higher education and learning. The National Basketball Association trains and showcases professional basketball players. If Tyler Hansborough needs to work on the game of basketball, a team will pay him to do that in the NBA. If he wants to continue his education in Liberal Arts, Carolina beckons. This blog reminds me how little these boys education means to people. They are brought into college as unpaid entertainers.
John Beilein to Michigan? He must be an idiot. Why would you give up what he built at WVU to go to going no where program at Michigan?
Anyone who thinks Oden is ready for prime time needs only look at his performance throughout the season. Conley, person that carried the Buckeyes and is ready for the draft got into early foul trouble in the Florida, which predicated the outdome of the game. Oden has zero style or stamina... maybe if he didnt try to jump through the hoop every time he laid in an easy put back he could make it more than 5 minutes without passing out.
Kevin Durant is the only player in quite a while that while loving to watch his game in college I cant but help thinking he is wasting his time. Doesn't he look like he is jsut going through the motions, not giving it 100%? He is still raw but keeping him in college is a waste of his talent at this time.
Oden should stay and develop. He should have been getting 20/20 every game and that is what eveyone expected but it didnt happen. Unless he goes to an experienced team with a patient coach it might be a rough transition in the NBA. I am sure he might be the best player out of this draft in 10 years.... but at this point he would struggle to meet expectations for a few more years. Might as well play a year or two with OSU and wrap up 2 titles asmuch as I hate to say that since I am a Florida Gator.
As far as the Florida Boys...everyone at Florida knows that Noah isnt what the media hyped him to be. Only the media proclaim his game to be great. on that note he should come out now and take advantage of the hysteria. I dont know if his game will ever be right for the NBA (think more of a Bo Outlaw). Horford is the most NBA ready but might not have much more potential to grow. Taurean Green is like an Andre Miller, no noticible speed or flashy skills and you wonder why he is even a starter. But trust me he knows how to run a team and does all the right things to win. Just look at the Sixers improvement by adding the non flashy Miller to the team, Green can do the same for an NBA club. The Gator I love the most is Corey Brewer who will be a steal no matter where he is drafted for any team that will let him start.
If Oden stays then Conley JR should stay and mop up some titles otherwise there is no other advantage to him staying or going.
Wright shouldnt come out early and I dont see any other players that I would like to see in the NBA besides maybe UCLA's Collison, Georgetown's Green. Hibert is in the same boat as Oden, he is still a project but Center is a needed position that NBA teams need. His 13/13 average is solid for some teams that just need a guy to fill the center and kick it out to thier great shooters ala Lakers/Celtics/Wizards.
personally i think that the nba should take the same rules of the nfl and require at least 3 years of college athletics. i mean, did you see ohio states graduation rate for bball players, 10%!if these guys dont work out in the nba or get hurt or whatnot, they won't have anything to fall back on without a college education. yeah u can get hurt in college but its better in college than in the pros whereas you lose millions and have no other hope of getting a fine paying job.
im from indiana and watched oden and conley grow up. im also a buckeye fan and think both need to stay. Oden isnt a good enough offensive player to play against shaq yao and howard in the nba. conley cant hit an open college three. durant needs to come back and bulk up. as much as it hurts me to say this horford and brewer from florida are the best two prospects that should be in this draft.
MWolf - his name is Chris Richard. He played for Florida for four years, if you were anything more than a bandwagoner who happened to sneak in to get a degree from Florida you might know that.
I know Fla won but Those OSU boys will go a lot further in the pro's. I don't even think J Noahs game translates well to the pros. we'll see
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