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SI's Verducci steps up to the plate

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Posted: Tuesday January 11, 2000 12:34 PM

  Tom Verducci has his reasons for selecting Gary Carter over Carlton Fisk. Jonathan Daniel/Allsport

Sports Illustrated's baseball writer and more importantly in this case, Hall of Fame voter Tom Verducci , talked with CNN/Sports Illustrated's Laura Okmin about the class of 2000 that may or may not be announced on Tuesday. Tony Perez is a sentimental favorite to get the nod this year. Laura asked why Perez isn't in the Hall and is this the year he gets in?

Verducci : Well, I think partly he's been overshadowed because he played on those great Big Red Machines where people like Rose, Bench and Morgan got a lot more publicity and really put up better numbers than Tony. But I look at Tony's numbers and I'm not sure he is a Hall of Famer. I look not at his batting average, but his slugging percentage and his on-base percentage were both worse than what Gil Hodges put up and I thought Hodges was a much better defensive first-baseman than Tony Perez. I also look at where players finish in the MVP balloting. Now Tony Perez for a very lengthy career, finished in the top six only once in his entire career. Somebody like Jim Rice, six times with top six finishes. Gary Carter four times. Even Carlton Fisk, two times. I think Perez just wasn't enough of a dominant player, especially at a first-base position where slugging is at a premium to get into the Hall

Okmin : Let's talk about the first-timers. Many say the winningest pitcher of the 1980's, Jack Morris has the strongest case. Agree? And did you vote him in?

Verducci : Well, I did not vote him in and he may have the strongest case. It's not a great first-year class. Jack Morris does have the most wins of the 1980's but what does that mean? Who has the most wins between 81 and 91? It's kind of a nebulous honor for Jack Morris.

Okmin : Let's talk about Goose Gossage. He saved 310 games. But no reliever has ever been honored with a first-year election. Can Goose debunk that trend?

Verducci : I don't think so. Time may tell, but first year? No, I don't see that. It's hard looking back at his numbers because saves are so easy to come by. Goose only had two years of 30 or more saves. But the fact is, he pitched in more pressure situations coming in the sixth and seventh innings than guys do nowadays. The fact is, with relief pitchers it is very hard to evaluate. We don't have a set standard to go by.

Okmin : As you said, there doesn't seem to be a clear-cut favorite this year. Many think the most durable catcher in the game's history should receive a call -- Carlton Fisk, baseball's all-time leader in games caught. He failed last year finishing fourth in the voting. Is he a shoe-in and how did you vote?

Verducci : Well, I don't think he is a shoe-in. My guess is that he will get in because last year I think he was hurt by the great class with the three great stars, [Nolan] Ryan, [Robin] Yount and [George] Brett. this year he stands out. Personally, I did not vote him and I'll tell you why. The last eight years of his career he hit .256, 14 home runs and 52 RBI's in a typical year. I think Carlton Fisk put up great numbers because of his longevity. But in his prime, I don't he was the catcher nor the hitter that Gary Carter was. And Carter has got less support than Fisk.

Okmin : Then that leads to who did you vote for? I'm going to guess you start off with Carter?

Verducci : Yeah, I went with Carter. I thought Carter was the dominant catcher through his prime. Big power hitter and clutch hitter in the post-season as well. I also voted for Boston's Jim Rice and here's why. I go with players who were dominant among their peers for an extended period of time. And for a good 11 or 12 years in the American League, there was no more a feared hitter than Jim Rice of the Boston Red Sox.

Okmin : He obviously didn't get your vote but former Atlanta Brave and two-time National League MVP Dale Murphy only received 19% of the vote in his first try last year. He needs 75%. Can he shoot up that high this time?

Verducci : I don't think so and boy I'd love to vote for Dale Murphy. I mean, again in his prime, great player. But he sort of reminds me of Don Mattingly. That prime was just not long enough. The batting average just fell way off the charts and he had some injuries late in his career. He was certainly on that Cooperstown track but just got off it too soon.

Okmin : Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci casting his vote on paper and now for us. As always, Tom, thanks.

Verducci : Thank you.

 
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