You don't have to tell him everything, Ginsburg said. But you'd better tell him enough so he doesn't think you're lying. The NCAA could hurt you.
The deal with the NCAA came out of this meeting. McAfee called his boss at the NCAA, assistant director of enforcement R. Daniel Beebe, who wrote Ginsburg to confirm the understanding. The letter promised that Marshall's "identity would not be made available to the public by the NCAA and would not be reported to NCAA member institutions that may inquire when he [ Marshall] seeks employment."
On Sept. 14, Sivak met Marshall in Ginsburg's office. The SI reporter was again present. Marshall now said that Brown and Gentry did know about the plane ticket that he bought Askew and the money that he wired Askew's aunt. Marshall said he believed that Gentry was going to repay him for the ticket and that Gentry did. Gentry says he reimbursed Marshall. Marshall also said Gentry had assured him he would get back the $350 wired to Askew's aunt. Marshall said he never got it, and Gentry says he made no assurances about repayment.
Marshall didn't tell NCAA investigators about lending money to Jayhawk players. But he told SI he had made such loans and said the players usually paid the money back. When they didn't, he said, he had money of his own, some left over from McNeese State and some he received from Brown—$20 to $200 at a time—for running errands or watching Brown's house when Brown was out of town. Brown says that he knew of no loans to players by Marshall and that he never used Marshall or anybody else to funnel money to players.
Manning, through his agent, Ron Grinker, said Marshall sometimes loaned him money but that it was never much. Said Grinker, "Danny said that Mike had given him five or six or seven dollars on several occasions, and he always paid the money back."
For his part, Askew, who is trying out for the Albany Patroons of the Continental Basketball Association, told the Associated Press in Albany last week that he was sorry Kansas was penalized so severely. According to the AP, Askew said, "I feel that if you do good for a person, like Coach Brown did, I don't think you should be penalized. But I don't make the rules."
Marshall also said he is bothered by the rules, but added, "Bottom line, we cheated. The NCAA considers it cheating. But I have to wonder, Did they want to do this to justify what they do when they go after the big boys?..."
In college basketball, few schools come bigger than Kansas.