Yes, that's what they said. Where people make a mistake, they don't give credit to the other pitcher. Your club isn't scoring runs and they say your club can't score, they can't hit. But why doesn't somebody say the other pitcher did a better job? What beat us in Minnesota in the first two games of the World Series? Not the fact that Minnesota got to me and Don, but the fact that Kaat and Grant were better pitchers than we were on those days.
Not that you were all that bad, either.
No, but Kaat only gave up one run against me. He was the better pitcher.
Sandy, do you still keep a mental card file on batters?
Yeah, you have to. I don't try to remember every hitter as such, but what happens is, when you look at a hitter you almost automatically remember the times he's hurt you. You don't remember the time you had one ball and two strikes on him and nobody out and a 10-run lead and you threw a pitch and he hit a ground ball to the shortstop. But you remember the times when there were men on and he got a base hit and hurt you or the times when you've made the good pitch and gotten him out. You can't have just one pattern on a hitter, because then he'll really know. You've got to try to pitch them a little bit different each time up. You've got to give them credit for thinking. Everybody thinks about the pitcher standing out there and the signals and everything he does to try to fool the batter. But they never even mention the fact that the hitter is standing there with a bat in his hand, and not just to swing it, either. He is thinking also. That's why you see a lot of great hitters take a strike on two strikes and no balls, or two strikes and one ball, or three and two, because they've been fooled. They've been fooled because they were looking for something else, they've been thinking.
If you keep pitching a man to his weakness, he can adjust and clobber you, can't he?
Sure. You can't go along in a set way. I remember a ball game against the Cardinals. I'd gotten Kenny Boyer out all night low and outside. On his last time up in the ninth inning, with a man on second in a close game, I threw a pitch in the same place and he hit a line drive into right field. Luckily it was caught and turned into a double play, but that's not the point. By throwing to the same place over and over I could have blown the game.
You were lucky, in other words?
I was lucky. I had to be lucky.
Do you feel there's a lot of luck in pitching?