What was that? "Whatever it was, it's out of style now. If you understand math and the kids have skills, you can figure out the rest. People. That's coaching." It must have been rewarding to make the Hall of Fame. "Which one?" Which one? "Well, there's the University Hall of Fame here, the Morgan State Hall of Fame, the CIAA Hall of Fame, the Helms Hall of Fame, through the NAIA. And Bob Douglas, who founded the New York Rens, has one in New York. Most people, though, mean the Naismith Hall of Fame, in Springfield [Mass.], the National Hall of Fame." The one that got your initials wrong on the ring? "Doesn't matter. They fixed it." How does it feel to be a legend? "Legend? Hate the word. After you've been around for so long, it's like you're on the mailing list. Legend makes me think of tombstones. Graveyards. Most of my friends are dead. Some of my players are dead."   
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