DP: Were you punished?
JM: I was on probation from freshman year on, for supposedly having a beer during the summer. I was on a public golf course, but the world is their campus, according to them.
DP: Were you asked to leave after your last game?
JM: I was called in and told I was no longer wanted there.
DP: You felt they used you?
JM: Oh, no doubt.
DP: Did you use them as well?
JM: Oh, yeah. I had no qualms about why I was there. I went to play football, and that's it.
DP: Is there any follow-up from you or your dad? Is he going to write to Obama, to see if he'll pardon you? Or maybe as one of his last acts in office George Bush will pardon you on BYU's campus?
JM: Maybe in the next life I'll get my reward, you know?