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Dan Patrick: Is there one spring training memory that stands out?
Dennis Eckersley: The first one. I was in Tucson, Cleveland Indians, 1975. Gaylord Perry was there.
DP: Why are we O.K. with everything Perry did? We romanticize doctoring the ball.
DE: I don't know. People say if you ain't cheating you ain't trying, but looking back on it, that's silly.
DP: How do you get away with doctoring the ball?
DE: I've heard all kinds of stories. The catcher cut it with his gear, or the third baseman. Sandpaper—you saw that a lot. And guys swallowing sandpaper.
DP: You knew guys who swallowed sandpaper?