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DP: [Roger] Clemens?
CS: No, no. If you used, no.
DP: You think Clemens used?
CS: Yes. Absolutely.
DP: It has to bother you, though, that you're facing guys....
CS: It's not something that was at the front of your mind. But you knew guys were doing it. I looked at that as just an extra challenge.
DP: If I said one vote between you and John Smoltz for the Hall of Fame....
CS: Smoltz. No question.
DP: Are you a Hall of Famer?