Van Sickle: I'll get a shovel.
Bamberger: Olympic has the greatest collection of par-3s anywhere. Unfortunately, I'm talking about the club's nine-hole par-3 Cliffs course across the road.
Shipnuck: It's kind of a shame that the best land on the property is the par-3 course.
Van Sickle: Is everybody O.K. with the 18th being a nondescript finishing hole?
Hack: Nondescript? That hole has so much history. It's the site of Payne Stewart and the ball rolling back to his feet after his putt, Ben Hogan losing the playoff to Jack Fleck.
Van Sickle: History doesn't make the hole any less nondescript.
Hack: Well, that entire green has been redone. Mike Davis of the USGA says Tom Meeks set up 71 of the 72 holes perfectly in '98, and all anyone wants to talk about is the one bad hole. I'm glad Olympic is back. There's nothing better than an Open in San Francisco.
Anonymous Pro: My only complaint is that a lot of the holes didn't need to be lengthened. The par-5 on the back now is, what, like 670 yards? What a waste. When is it going to end? Wouldn't it be easier to roll back the ball instead of redoing all these courses? Lengthening Olympic is ridiculous. It has already stood the test of time.
Van Sickle: Maybe the USGA still does care about the winning score, especially after Rory McIlroy embarrassed Congressional by getting to 16 under last year.
Anonymous Pro: What was second place last year, eight under? One guy was remarkable. The added length here is a total overreaction to the USGA's lack of governance on technology. Don't overreact to something you should've corrected 15 years ago.